Farhad Moshiri

7+ Years On... Your Verdict On Farhad Moshiri

  • Pleased

    Votes: 107 7.7%

  • Disappointed

    Votes: 1,290 92.3%
  • Total voters
    1,397
davek said:
All perfunctory acts, most of which even Kenwright fulfilled.

Let's have it right, the most significant thing he's done so far is to expose this club to financial instability for the next 40 years. It's an elaborate scheme which minimises any risk to him.

If you call that a great deal then be my guest and hail it. I'll remain sceptical...as would anyone who understands that the football industry is open over the course of time to the vagaries of consumption.
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Tell you what then Dave, you're entitled to remain sceptical... just try and give the rest of us eternal optimists something of a break from the scepticism eh?

Folks with a far better grasp of financial matters than I, and maybe even you, seem to conclude that the deal for the new stadium is good for just about all parties.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
Is not scepticism it's simply the standard contrary stance to anything Everton.

On this particular issue, he hasn't got a scoob on the subject matter i.e. the financing of both the club and the stadium proposal.
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i think the only way some would be happy would be if the Mosh dipped his hand into his pocket, withdrew £350m and sounded that on a stadium. Even I know that that isn't a clever way of making your money work.
 
Without Farhad Moshiri, Bramley Moore would not even be on Evertonian lips. A last, golden opportunity for us to have a home on the River Mersey would be passing us by right at this minute. The guy has come in and removed the restraints which have held us back from even considering such a move.
This talk of landing us with a 40 year debt is laughable. It is a sustainable debt, and the rewards are pretty much worth every penny. Any negativity towards the guy is pretty much a head scratcher.
 
AndyC said:
Tell you what then Dave, you're entitled to remain sceptical... just try and give the rest of us eternal optimists something of a break from the scepticism eh?

Folks with a far better grasp of financial matters than I, and maybe even you, seem to conclude that the deal for the new stadium is good for just about all parties.
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As said, anyone who thinks the funding plan being proposed is bomb proof and wont endanger the club's future in any way over the next 4 decades then good luck to them. IMO, that's something that can't be guaranteed and we need the club's assets to be back under full control and out of the grasp of other institutions ASAP.

Let's put it this way, when Moshiri is well gone from Everton future generations of this club will still be living with the deal he struck. A sobering thought.
 

davek said:
As said, anyone who thinks the funding plan being proposed is bomb proof and wont endanger the club's future in any way over the next 4 decades then good luck to them. IMO, that's something that can't be guaranteed and we need the club's assets to be back under full control and out of the grasp of other institutions ASAP.

Let's put it this way, when Moshiri is well gone from Everton future generations of this club will still be living with the deal he struck. A sobering thought.
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Dave, remember the cladding!
 
davek said:
As said, anyone who thinks the funding plan being proposed is bomb proof and wont endanger the club's future in any way over the next 4 decades then good luck to them. IMO, that's something that can't be guaranteed and we need the club's assets to be back under full control and out of the grasp of other institutions ASAP.

Let's put it this way, when Moshiri is well gone from Everton future generations of this club will still be living with the deal he struck. A sobering thought.
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Imagine if Moshiri hadn't arrived. Stuck with Martinez going nowhere, possibly bottom half of the table, mid-table at best. A much needed new home would only be a dream. No room to grow. Same old same old. Watch this space. Watching the other clubs leave us behind while we slowly drift into oblivion. A sobering thought.
 
CrustySack said:
Imagine if Moshiri hadn't arrived. Stuck with Martinez going nowhere, possibly bottom half of the table, mid-table at best. A much needed new home would only be a dream. No room to grow. Same old same old. Watch this space. Watching the other clubs leave us behind while we slowly drift into oblivion. A sobering thought.
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Yeah, imagine. Under Kenwright and Martinez we were 5th. Under Moshiri and Koeman we're 7th.

Are you sure you aren't cutting this feller a bit too much slack and overdoing the hero worship for someone who's essentially achieved f.a.?
 

davek said:
As said, anyone who thinks the funding plan being proposed is bomb proof and wont endanger the club's future in any way over the next 4 decades then good luck to them. IMO, that's something that can't be guaranteed and we need the club's assets to be back under full control and out of the grasp of other institutions ASAP.

Let's put it this way, when Moshiri is well gone from Everton future generations of this club will still be living with the deal he struck. A sobering thought.
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If you had the vaguest clue what you were talking about, you'd have possibly understood that the risk (as small as it is)actually sits with LCC

The idea that the lease endangers Everton despite it being a fixed term is based on what?
 
davek said:
Yeah, imagine. Under Kenwright and Martinez we were 5th. Under Moshiri and Koeman we're 7th.

Are you sure you aren't cutting this feller a bit too much slack and overdoing the hero worship for someone who's essentially achieved f.a.?
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Hahahaha so your hating on him stems from the fact he sacked the Catalan?

Bring back Kenwright says davek, hahahaha your contradictions know no bounds
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
If you had the vaguest clue what you were talking about, you'd have possibly understood that the risk (as small as it is)actually sits with LCC

The idea that the lease endangers Everton despite it being a fixed term is based on what?
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Read the documentation on penalties concerning default....and when you do try and envisage a world where nothing stands still.

You'd have to be Stevie Wonder not to see the inherent potential dangers in this proposed deal...to EFC that is, not a very crafty Moshiri.
 
davek said:
As said, anyone who thinks the funding plan being proposed is bomb proof and wont endanger the club's future in any way over the next 4 decades then good luck to them. IMO, that's something that can't be guaranteed and we need the club's assets to be back under full control and out of the grasp of other institutions ASAP.

Let's put it this way, when Moshiri is well gone from Everton future generations of this club will still be living with the deal he struck. A sobering thought.
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How would you fund the stadium then?

Seems the alternative choices to me are:

  • Moshiri pays upfront for the stadium, presumably that would still be a debt the club would owe to him. If he sells his shares someone has to buy out at a higher rate due to the capital input, this might limit the number of potential investors. Do we pay capital off this way, could we end up with 350 million bill that could need paying at the worst time?
  • Instead of long term financing, use a shorter term method. As Osbourne states it, fix the roof while the sun is shining. So use the large TV deal/player sales to pay off the stadium in large chunks over the next 5 to 10 seasons. This will hopefully circumvent any future bumps in the road like loss of income due to lower TV deals. Etc. It will however severely hamper efforts to be successful.
 

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