Farhad Moshiri

[davek]

Yeah but he can invest anywhere between 30-60m this summer (total of, say, 140 by september) and it'd still be great because of the windfall from Lukaku. However, you won't count that as he's not literally spent it out of his pocket.

Net spend needs to be north of £50M to be considered anything like a substantial summer spend.

If he fails to do that then everyone must see this is all about a stadium being paid for by the club and not him and he's here to just get his pound of flesh.

 

[a bell maul]

It's a bit of a stretch describing Tom Cleverley as England's best player

 

[msb]

Shouldn't this thread be locked. 1800+ pages of pure conjecture and irritating repetition by all the usual suspects. Re-open it in 12 months time?

 

[Blue_Berry]

Net spend needs to be north of £50M to be considered anything like a substantial summer spend.

If he fails to do that then everyone must see this is all about a stadium being paid for by the club and not him and he's here to just get his pound of flesh.

And so Dave, if - by every measure - we try to spend that much net (which if we were to get £100m for Lukaku and Barkley say, would mean a total spend of £150m), and the top, top players we crave simply will not sign at any cost because they will only move to a CL team, will that in your book ipso facto mean that Moshiri is an asset stripper...?

Or should we buy 15 Cleverleys just to prove the opposite?

 

[harris78]

Farhad Moshphoney

 

[GwladysPhil]

Which means you are happy to go back to the way things were?

The majority of us who are not at this point jumping on Moshiris back aren't posting saying 'Wow this is amazing, he is everything we could have hoped and wished for in a part owner'. He has however pushed us on commercially, raised our profile in the media, trying to move from Goodison, the playing staff are better than the previous season and more importantly our league position has improved. Whether he has sunk his own money or not. So all this 'nothing has changed', 'he's a fraud', blah blah is a load of old crap. You can question can he do more and is he here just to eventually sell us on for profit etc.

Time is the key in all of this, he could have blasted the transfer market for 2/3 windows and still turn out to be a bad owner. Just give it chance, in a couple of seasons we will all have a good idea of what he is like as owner.

Anything being written bad about him at the moment is pure speculation driven by agendas.

I agree, the best thing that can happen is he makes us more attractive to a future owner that will then take us onto another level.

A new stadium and challenging for Europe is what will do this and he's doing it.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Net spend needs to be north of £50M to be considered anything like a substantial summer spend.

If he fails to do that then everyone must see this is all about a stadium being paid for by the club and not him and he's here to just get his pound of flesh.

Bottom line is that as long as Everton gain a stadium that is capable of generating significant non match day revenue, (which will be needed to offset the imminent collapse in t.v. Payments ) , and build up a squad able to compete at the highest level, that will be considered a success, regardless of the strategy used to get us there. It is far too early to cast any definitive judgement at present or in the immediate future. However we can form a qualified opinion , and my opinion is that things are currently progressing satisfactorily.

 

[Duncan Disordely]

Net spend needs to be north of £50M to be considered anything like a substantial summer spend.

If he fails to do that then everyone must see this is all about a stadium being paid for by the club and not him and he's here to just get his pound of flesh.

 

[3rd Generation]

Net spend needs to be north of £50M to be considered anything like a substantial summer spend.

If he fails to do that then everyone must see this is all about a stadium being paid for by the club and not him and he's here to just get his pound of flesh.

Absolute rubbish. The objective of every transfer window is to finish the window in a better position R.E. playing staff when it closes in order to improve our team. How much we spend doing that is irrelevant. To give you an example we could sell Rom for 70 million and then spend 150 mill on two monumental flops and by your reckoning that would be a success. Whereas we could sell rom for 100 mill and discover the next messi for 10 mill and by your reckoning that would be a failure. The window has to be judged on the quality of the players brought in not the money spent surely ?

 

[nsno-chris]

Absolute rubbish. The objective of every transfer window is to finish the window in a better position R.E. playing staff when it closes in order to improve our team. How much we spend doing that is irrelevant. To give you an example we could sell Rom for 70 million and then spend 150 mill on two monumental flops and by your reckoning that would be a success. Whereas we could sell rom for 100 mill and discover the next messi for 10 mill and by your reckoning that would be a failure. The window has to be judged on the quality of the players brought in not the money spent surely ?

Dave doesn't get football, it's all about the cash according to him and if the owner isn't selling off all his assets to fund the club then he's a fraud in his eyes

 

[whiteshadow]

Shouldn't this thread be locked. 1800+ pages of pure conjecture and irritating repetition by all the usual suspects. Re-open it in 12 months time?

You could just not read the thread instead of trying to restrict peoples freedom to talk about what they want.

 

[Goat]

Shouldn't this thread be locked. 1800+ pages of pure conjecture and irritating repetition by all the usual suspects. Re-open it in 12 months time?

Why 12 months?

We only need the next 12 weeks, they will tell us everything we need to know.

 

[SteveSC]

My argument is that he's not much of an upgrade.

I judge on performance. If his gets better (as in a massive net spend this summer or a big 'spade in the ground' development on the stadium) then I'll reassess.

This is pure ridiculousness.

So you would rather he spunk his personal wealth just because he could if he has it?

Only Arab owners do that and thats because they have billions of personal wealth hence the laws were changed by UEFA on the financial aspects of spending and club wealth.

Do you not think the very fact he came in pumped 80m to get rid of a bad loan and then he allowed the manager and DOF go after targets and ultimately try spend money was a bad thing? Most of the targets didn't seem to pan out did they.

He comes from a financial background remember that. If you are or know people in that game they are very shrewd with money and finance especially their own and are strategic. Also with the new financial laws the FFP and the importance of being stable i am sure hes not just simply going to spunk like i said his fortune.

Not only that they are preparing to try and fund a stadium.

You just simply never to be happy with anything Everton do as of late. You argue for the sake of arguing. Some say you are the best at it but to new people and people who don't know you you are simply angry about Everton to the point that sometimes you make points just to be negative.

 

[sixtynineseventy]

Ah right. He's an Evertonian? I thought he supported somone else as he never has anything positive to say about EFC.

 

[davek]

And so Dave, if - by every measure - we try to spend that much net (which if we were to get £100m for Lukaku and Barkley say, would mean a total spend of £150m), and the top, top players we crave simply will not sign at any cost because they will only move to a CL team, will that in your book ipso facto mean that Moshiri is an asset stripper...?

Or should we buy 15 Cleverleys just to prove the opposite?

There's a whole world between good players for £15M to £25M and Cleverley.

No excuses no matter what we rake in: get that spent and £50M.

THEN we might see what this feller has been given the big build up for.