Farhad Moshiri

[Steve Wigan]

You need to give that advice on maths to the manager then, because he believes we spent just £10M more than Huddersfield this summer.

Were do Huddersfield come in to it? In any case,Koeman getting something wrong(! ) doesn't alter the fact,as far as we know, that we 'outspent' Burnley by 64 million, not 15 million,as eddy said.Who is more wrong, RK or eddy?. Obviously, eddy is 'misreading' the figures as stated ,to 'support' his argument. Less people are genuflecting before the Net Spend god than ever before...based on NS in the summer we should be a shoe in for fourth place. With our present players, managed by Pep or Jose...would we make the CL?

 

[Goat]

Were do Huddersfield come in to it? In any case,Koeman getting something wrong(! ) doesn't alter the fact,as far as we know, that we 'outspent' Burnley by 64 million, not 15 million,as eddy said.Who is more wrong, RK or eddy?. Obviously, eddy is 'misreading' the figures as stated ,to 'support' his argument. Less people are genuflecting before the Net Spend god than ever before...based on NS in the summer we should be a shoe in for fourth place. With our present players, managed by Pep or Jose...would we make the CL?

Not without a Striker.

Not even SAF could get this team higher than 10th without a freaking Striker.

 

[Goat]

I think this is really the key phase re Moshiri. It sounds like a cop out but I think it's very difficult to make a concrete judgement on his vision of Everton until the second phase is initiated. I can only imagine what we currently have now is the initial transitional period, perhaps at the insistence of Bill Kenwright et al before we can move forward. You would imagine phase 2 would be Moshiri buying Everton out and with that another change of composition on the board. How many further phases occur, additional partners etc is up in the air. Indeed what Everton looks like after that is up in the air, it may look quite similar to the current Everton or radically different but I think we can only have a concrete judgement once that happens.

What I will say though are two things to balance this. Firstly I don't think Moshiri is doing enough within the transitional phase to put pressure on the current staff running Everton. He elected to move Elstone onto the board while Bexendale and Harris have also came on. I don't think any of them are of the right standard, or in truth are the right sort of people who will move Everton in the direction we want to go. He could have easily put another 2/3 equivalents of the the Russian guy (who's name I can never spell) onto the board. I think this would have led to a very different approach at board level in the transition period. There seems to be an acceptance on his part that we have to accept the mediocre last two summers business, which worries me.

Secondly I don't think we can say with 100% certainty phase 2 comes anymore. I think it will and it would be logical to. Moshiri would be a complete idiot to invest money and allow Kenwright and Elstone to remain in control. You don't know though, 2 months ago I'd have said that was impossible but then I'd also have said him coming out and saying us losing games at home or against sides like Atalanta would have been impossible.

I think the club needs to be strategic. I popped on twitter the other day they should consider getting David Gill. That would be my starting point if I was Moshiri if phase 2 happens. Look to attract the best people from within the industry. The best paid CEO two years ago earned 2 million a year. Offer him 5 million a year, and a bonus of 5 million for every year he grows turnover none broadcast revenues by 30% (with a minimum increase of 15 million pounds). It might not work, he may be happy in his retirement, but 5 million a year basic will likely interest anyone.

Alternatively look to the private sector. Find any CEO who has shown they can go businesses over a 4-5 year period at 25% at through 5 million a year at them. Even for big firms this is a huge sum of money but in football it's the wages of Kevin Mirallas and Mo Besic. Frankly David Gill would make a bigger impact for Everton.

This is what I want to see more of from Farhad.

With respect mate, SunTanBob has grown the business massively over the last few years, are you suggesting we give that clown 5m a year?

 

[davek]

Were do Huddersfield come in to it? In any case,Koeman getting something wrong(! ) doesn't alter the fact,as far as we know, that we 'outspent' Burnley by 64 million, not 15 million,as eddy said.Who is more wrong, RK or eddy?. Obviously, eddy is 'misreading' the figures as stated ,to 'support' his argument. Less people are genuflecting before the Net Spend god than ever before...based on NS in the summer we should be a shoe in for fourth place. With our present players, managed by Pep or Jose...would we make the CL?

It's been money poorly spent, that much we can agree on. I dont see anything in Klaassen's game that will change his value; Sigurdsson we could never call good value by virtue of the fact that its money that will never be able to be recovered in a sell on...only a trophy won while he's here with him playing a big part in it can ever justify £45M for a 28 year old; Sandro and Vlasic are speculative punts; Keane is ok but £30M for a pro still learning the ropes was a mugging - ditto Pickford's price.

 

[Goat]

It's been money poorly spent, that much we can agree on. I dont see anything in Klaassen's game that will change his value; Sigurdsson we could never call good value by virtue of the fact that its money that will never be able to be recovered in a sell on...only a trophy won while he's here with him playing a big part in it can ever justify £45M for a 28 year old; Sandro and Vlasic are speculative punts; Keane is ok but £30M for a pro still learning the ropes was a mugging - ditto Pickford's price.

Evening toffee, theres only 1 man to blame for our spending, Steve Walsh.

 

[davek]

Evening toffee, theres only 1 man to blame for our spending, Steve Walsh.

Did fantastically well at Leicester; comes here and the signings (Gueye aside) look either too young and raw or too expensive. I would say his method is being hindered by someone daft enough to go above their heads on players that they like, such as Klaassen and Sigurdsson.

 

[Goat]

Did fantastically well at Leicester; comes here and the signings (Gueye aside) look either too young and raw or too expensive. I would say his method is being hindered by someone daft enough to go above their heads on players that they like, such as Klaassen and Sigurdsson.

I would suggest hes out of his depth and should resign.

 

[Steve Wigan]

Why? I do not have to, it is my opinion, I am sorry if it upsets you so much
We `appear` to be selling our better players and saddling the club with huge debt re the stadium
I agreed earlier that wages have increased slightly, however this was not what I envisaged for the club when Moshiri bought in
The whole Moshiri involvement seems strange ........

Did you expect that the new stadium would not incur any debt? Were you expecting Moshiri to cough up hundreds of millions for the stadium out of his piggy bank? The advantage of having Mr Moshiri on board(well, one of the advantages) is that he is in a position to negotiate and secure funding in millions, whereas BK played in a much smaller(though not inconsiderable) pond.
Are you suggesting that the non-sale of Barkley is the reason we didn't get Giroud? I thought Giroud and his wife were the reason. You do appreciate that it is probably impossible to 'replace' Lukaku like for like in world football? OK a striker should have been signed,but the responsibility for that failure is a grey area,embracing BK,Walsh,Koeman ans maybe Moshiri. And even a 40-50 million striker would be hit and miss....there are lots of supposedly great strikers who have failed in the Prem.

 

[eddy]

No you aren't forming your opinion on the same info as everyone else because as you are demonstrating post after post that you don't understand nor are you even attempting to.



Who owns our club that is Foreign? Why would foreign ownership make a difference as to what our accounts can or can't show? What company owns Everton? Where are they based? This is all readily available information that you cant be bothered to look up

Farhad Moshiri
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For the artist, see Farhad Moshiri (artist).
Farhad Moshiri
Born Ardavan Farhad Moshiri
18 May 1955 (age 62)
Iran
Residence Monaco
Nationality British
Citizenship British
Alma mater University College London
Occupation Shareholder of Everton[1]
Shareholder of USM Holdings
Shareholder of MegaFon
Shareholder of Metalloinvest
Net worth US$2.6 billion (February 2017)[2]
Spouse(s) Nazenin Ansari (ex-wife)
Children 2
Ardavan Farhad Moshiri (Persian: اردوان فرهاد ﻣﺸﻴﺮى‎‎; born 18 May 1955) is a British businessman and investor who resides in Monaco.[3] Moshiri owns and has shares in numerous steel and energy companies in the UK and Russia, as well as a 49.9% stake in Everton

F.C..[4]


I have no idea how or why foreign ownership or any ownership for that matter, would make a difference to the club accounts, and unless you
are a specialist accountant then neither do you .............

The matter of the clubs accounts are hugely complex. I would assume so much so, that most forum users would admit this and admit to opinions based upon being a layman, unless of course you are not ........... over to you !

 

[davek]

I would suggest hes out of his depth and should resign.

I agree....who are we talking about?

 

[eddy]

Did you expect that the new stadium would not incur any debt? Were you expecting Moshiri to cough up hundreds of millions for the stadium out of his piggy bank? The advantage of having Mr Moshiri on board(well, one of the advantages) is that he is in a position to negotiate and secure funding in millions, whereas BK played in a much smaller(though not inconsiderable) pond.
Are you suggesting that the non-sale of Barkley is the reason we didn't get Giroud? I thought Giroud and his wife were the reason. You do appreciate that it is probably impossible to 'replace' Lukaku like for like in world football? OK a striker should have been signed,but the responsibility for that failure is a grey area,embracing BK,Walsh,Koeman ans maybe Moshiri. And even a 40-50 million striker would be hit and miss....there are lots of supposedly great strikers who have failed in the Prem.

I agree with you Steve, yes I expected more but as one of the moderators said earlier ` yet` and that is were we are, early days. I think things will get better on and off the pitch and January is round the corner. Lets hope so hey ?

 

[rochdaleblue]

You would think Moshiri is no fool. We as fans have had to put up with incompetence in the boardroom for many years. Kenwright's position seems untouchable and it is baffling why elstrone is still at the club, let alone promoted to the board. Why retain individuals who over there tenure have failed in 2 ground moves and overseen one of the commercial deals in modern football times (kitbag deal). Whilst we still have these individuals at the helm, should any of us be surprised that things aren't moving off the pitch at the rate they should be.

 

[joey_macmo]

Farhad Moshiri
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
(Redirected from Farhad Moshiri (businessman))
For the artist, see Farhad Moshiri (artist).
Farhad Moshiri
Born Ardavan Farhad Moshiri
18 May 1955 (age 62)
Iran
Residence Monaco
Nationality British
Citizenship British
Alma mater University College London
Occupation Shareholder of Everton[1]
Shareholder of USM Holdings
Shareholder of MegaFon
Shareholder of Metalloinvest
Net worth US$2.6 billion (February 2017)[2]
Spouse(s) Nazenin Ansari (ex-wife)
Children 2
Ardavan Farhad Moshiri (Persian: اردوان فرهاد ﻣﺸﻴﺮى‎‎; born 18 May 1955) is a British businessman and investor who resides in Monaco.[3] Moshiri owns and has shares in numerous steel and energy companies in the UK and Russia, as well as a 49.9% stake in Everton

F.C..[4]


I have no idea how or why foreign ownership or any ownership for that matter, would make a difference to the club accounts, and unless you
are a specialist accountant then neither do you .............

The matter of the clubs accounts are hugely complex. I would assume so much so, that most forum users would admit this and admit to opinions based upon being a layman, unless of course you are not ........... over to you !

So our majority shareholder is British yet you bring up foreign ownership?

You don’t need to be an accountant to ascertain these things.

 

[joey_macmo]

You would think Moshiri is no fool. We as fans have had to put up with incompetence in the boardroom for many years. Kenwright's position seems untouchable and it is baffling why elstrone is still at the club, let alone promoted to the board. Why retain individuals who over there tenure have failed in 2 ground moves and overseen one of the commercial deals in modern football times (kitbag deal). Whilst we still have these individuals at the helm, should any of us be surprised that things aren't moving off the pitch at the rate they should be.

Said it many times but this is the only gripe I have with Moshiri.

The other accusations are just baseless rubbish

 

[eddy]

So our majority shareholder is British yet you bring up foreign ownership?

You don’t need to be an accountant to ascertain these things.

And resides in Monaco! any particular reason other than the lovely weather ?

As I said extremely complex and way above mine and your pay grade dont you think?