Farhad Moshiri

[Marius57]

Everton owner Farhad Moshiri says he supports manager Frank Lampard

Everton owner Farhad Moshiri says he has faith in manager Frank Lampard and the club's directors despite the club being in the Premier League relegation zone.

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The kiss of death, so long Frank

Said he had confidence in the board and Kev as well. Good riddance to the lot hopefully.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Not surprised in the slightest.

He’s no longer interested in the club or whether or not we get relegated and this statement proves it.

he knows he spunked hundreds of millions up the wall that he’s unlikely ever to get back, so why bother to make any effort to rectify the situation.

I don’t think I would.

 

[Kever10]

I think the flaw in your post is that you have not mentioned the 12 years of failire and lack of strategy which occurred under Kenwright. Surely anybody investing millions in a business who did not intend to be involved in governance issues would ensure they had a competent person in place to protect their interests. If Kenwright is 'A figurehead at best.' then he is not competent to perform the role of Chairman. This lack of competence at Board level must impact upon overall team performance. If there was a plan then responsible people in authority would have revised it should it be failing. This act has not taken place and goes to the heart of the problem. The club has no leadership or recogniseable direction, as such supporters are entitled to be totally p.ss.d.

You say its a flaw in my post, but i didnt acknowledge it because i didnt think it needed addressing. It is what is. Its history now, it can't be changed. But just as i cant say it wouldnt have made a difference if he had been replaced, you cant say it would. Neither of us know.

None of us really know what goes on, and so, people assume, and shout, and moan, and talk about having a plan, etc. We literally dont know what the plan is, and why should we? Do you know the inner workings of any club?

Its just largely about being heard for a lot of people, and those that shout loudest get the most attention and traction, whether those ideas are worthwhile or not.

We can all be as frustrated as the next fan, but calling for nondescript actions to be taken, with no idea of the consequences, by people who havent got a clue what they are talking about, that is not it.

And when they angrily call for a response, get 1, and then fume even more because they dont get the exact response they want, its entitlement and nothing more.

Like i say, i genuinely dont know what these people expected in a response, and im still waiting for someone to explain it to me.

 

[tommye]

The groans start at any negative result and it snowballs

Been snowballing for near 30 years Kev.
The same fella is still rolling that ball.

 

[brucemate]

You say its a flaw in my post, but i didnt acknowledge it because i didnt think it needed addressing. It is what is. Its history now, it can't be changed. But just as i cant say it wouldnt have made a difference if he had been replaced, you cant say it would. Neither of us know.

None of us really know what goes on, and so, people assume, and shout, and moan, and talk about having a plan, etc. We literally dont know what the plan is, and why should we? Do you know the inner workings of any club?

Its just largely about being heard for a lot of people, and those that shout loudest get the most attention and traction, whether those ideas are worthwhile or not.

We can all be as frustrated as the next fan, but calling for nondescript actions to be taken, with no idea of the consequences, by people who havent got a clue what they are talking about, that is not it.

And when they angrily call for a response, get 1, and then fume even more because they dont get the exact response they want, its entitlement and nothing more.

Like i say, i genuinely dont know what these people expected in a response, and im still waiting for someone to explain it to me.

Supporting a football club is an emotional investment, The history you mention has an impact on that. Under such circumstabces suopporters are entitled to expect improvement. If EFC had no fans it would not exist.

 

[Adscum]

Suspicion is he's so disinterested and disengaged he's basically said "Do whatever" and 'Prenno' has drafted that load of nonsense.

At least it highlights we need a new owner and not just a new board.

 

[degsy]

As far as i can tell, and i might be wrong here, we probably have the biggest turnover of staff and board members out of any club in the league in the last 7 years.

Im not Kenwrights biggest fan by any means, but he is a figureahead at best. DBB gets an enormous amount of flack as well. Are these people somehow responsible for Anthony Gordon missing 2 sitters from 8 yards out against bottom of the league?

The fact is, we are performing poorly because things haven't gone to plan. That doesnt mean there isnt one.

All the histrionics in here and across social media does nothing but cause unrest. The groans start at any negative result and it snowballs. But thats football.

That other whopper Ped drones on and on about Newcastle till hes even redder in the face than normal, but ill tell u what happened at Newcastle. They got a new manager and few new players, got some good results and the momentum has carried them. The difference between where they are now and where we are now is the difference between 2 goals chalked off to offside and 2 Almiron worldies that he may never score again.

Confidence and positivity breeds confidence and positivity.

Should we have another striker in? Undoubtedly. But the reason our finances are the way they are is because we rolled the same dice Newcastle did, several times, and ran out of luck each time. Not because Dan Ashworth has changed the DNA of the club in less than a year.

The anger is multiplied because that lot across the park have gone virtually 5 years unbeaten, but we cant all cheat and get away with it.

The system is rigged. The sooner some people see that the better.

Yeah all fair enough, but we don’t have to  Like it - hence the fume on here.

 

[Furey1878]

Hate him

 

[degsy]

He didn't change the chairman and board. Thats the crucial mistake.

Listening to worm tongue Bill in the first place was the crucial mistake

 

[blueblood]

I was really worried about our future and the threat of relegation, but now Farhad’s written a letter saying Frank, Kev, Bill and Denise know what they’re doing I’m all fine about it now. He even said they've got a plan. No need to protest now.

 

[Dixieslaces]

It’s a far more complex debate then many of the pressure groups suggest, I keep hearing “we want change” - what’s that exactly….because change could be catastrophic for us. I’m not defending anyone here just stating what I believe to be the reality. Would I like us run better, definitely I’ve been saying it long before the koolaide was drunk - in regard to our finances.

No doubt a fair degree of mismanagement happened, the owner perhaps to my mind is content to have patsies at board level in place so he can make all decisions - it happens. That or he’s naive and been taken advantage of “by supporting his management teams”.

Nuts and bolts and he has said it in his letter, he’s invested huge sums of money in the club, he’s taken on board and solved the ground issue - two high priority problematic issues at the club for decades, his commitment and actions of support can’t be questioned. Incredible sums of money have been spent, no one else is going to that in my opinion, or certainly they can’t.

The problem we have now is the club is utterly dependent on him now for financial survival, those 100s millions of losses we see every year is actual money being covered by Moshiri, without those cheques the club ceases to function and goes into administration or liquidation - essentially all assets getting sold. You won’t see that in the small print of the advocacy groups when they talk “of change”, nor can they give guarantees that a new owner won’t come in and asset strip us to cover our losses etc.

So it’s a fair more complex discussion, then a glib, we want change, a new man comes in and we start from scratch, that’s not going to happen, we’re in a hole and without Moshiri cheques we are in huge trouble.

So ultimately a lot of contrasts exist at the same time, have we been mismanaged - yes, has he invested an incredible amount of money on the club and infrastructure - yes. Is the club utterly dependent on him and without further investment to cover our losses are we in huge trouble - yes.

Someone is going to have to come up with something better in terms of strategy as just “change” because it’s a far more complex issue then just a binary in or out, in terms of the clubs well being.

Again I’m not defending him or the management teams as it’s clear we have been poorly managed, but the problem that has been created isn’t something that is going to be reset with a new owner - in fact things could get worse if there is no guarantee that an external partner covers our losses. That’s how I see the reality of the clubs position in regard to the dynamic.

This a good balanced post, relevant points and a good summary.

I think the issue with today's open letter is he hasn't really in any way addressed the concerns, just thrown a "my ball, my game, don't like it, lump it" which in no way even covers any of what the fanbase, media etc are seeing.

Change for change sake often leads to further kicking the can, but it's not like he hasn't been kicking the can for the last 7 years and is guilty, imo, of dereliction of duty to the "custodianship" to which he refers and seems to be "proud" of by being scattergun with hiring and firing.

He has not, as fsr as we can see, put in place any business model for this club, on or off field.

Delivered thus far the stadium we need but will potentially oversee it being Championship or worse stadium with huge financial implications.

If any of us had been in his position and been as remiss with decisions and future planning, it would only right that his board etc question our/his vision and challenge us/him on it.

He needs to go or show some fight and a plan and not by just necessarily saying yet another manager.

That's the very least we deserve as fans.

 

[StateSideToffee]

Farhad has done nothing wrong other than provide massive amounts of money to the wrong people, that they have subsequently wasted.

If you want to place blame, place it all on Bill Kenwright. It defies all logic and reason that he hasn't been sacked from his role. His influence is the virus that has infected what Everton historically has stood for. If Bill were a real Blue that cared about the club he would step down.

 

[Thomasc]

Hate him

Hate Kenwright more

 

[4737carlin]

Farhad has done nothing wrong other than provide massive amounts of money to the wrong people, that they have subsequently wasted.

If you want to place blame, place it all on Bill Kenwright. It defies all logic and reason that he hasn't been sacked from his role. His influence is the virus that has infected what Everton historically has stood for. If Bill were a real Blue that cared about the club he would step down.

So you say Farhad has done nothing wrong, then a sentence later say he has done something that defies logic????

 

[MikeH72]

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