TheFinnFan
Finners
Great that Moshiri brought this new board member in. Baz & Ped in toffee tv speaked well about it
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Don,t you miss the action while messing about with all those new fangled things? I,ll never get the hang of them!Really, you must be in the Top Balcony or something them ?
I sometimes lose the whole network inside Goodison and have to reboot as soon as I get outside !
If we stay at Goodison I'm hoping Moshiri's contacts in the mobile world will sort this out.
Ah, but if he's moved to the board of directors, doesn't he have to stand down as CEO?
So doesn't it matter then that a member of the board is or isn't a director? I thought that a director had additional responsibilities in law. Could you spell it out for someone (me) who is rather confused?
Many thanks Esk (I think!).Ok short legal lesson coming up: (skip to final paragraph for summary if TL;DR.)
Types of directors
There are three types of directors:
Duties owed by directors
- De jure director: a director who is formally appointed and whose appointment is registered at Companies House.
- De facto director: “any person occupying the position of a director, by whatever name called”, as defined in section 250 of the Companies Act 2006 (“CA”).
- Shadow director: a person “in accordance with whose directions or instructions the directors of the company are accustomed to act”, as defined in section 251 CA.
De jure directors owe the fiduciary duties of good faith and loyalty as well as the common law duties to exercise skill and care to the company / shareholders. They also owe statutory duties including those set out in the CA, such as the duty to act within their powers, the duty to promote the success of the company, and the duty to avoid conflicts of interest.
However, what if you have not been formally appointed?
De facto directors
If a person is held to be a de facto director, they will owe fiduciary duties as well as duties imposed by statute. This is because de facto directors come under the general definition of a director in section 250 CA.
Accordingly, any breaches of the fiduciary duties or statutory duties can result in liability, even where the individual has not been formally appointed.
It is not always abundantly clear whether or not someone is a de facto director. However, in the case of Smithton Ltd v Naggar and others [2014], it was held that one of the key factors in determining whether someone was a de facto director was whether that person was part of the corporate governance system of the company and whether he assumed the status and function of a director so as to make himself responsible as if he were a director. The judge also gave further guidance on the matter, namely:
Shadow directors
- That a job title will not be a deciding factor - the court will also look at what the director actually did.
- It is not a defence to show that the director, in good faith, thought he was not acting as a director. This question will be determined objectively.
- Any acts done by the director should be looked at in the relevant context.
- A relevant factor will be whether the company considered the individual to be a director and held them out as such, and whether third parties considered the individual to be a director.
- The fact that a person is consulted about directorial decisions, or their approval is sought on such decisions, does not in general make them a director because they are not making the decision.
Although there are some express requirements in the CA which state that shadow directors will be liable in the same way as de jure directors, e.g. in relation to wrongful trading, director disqualification and in relation to the declaration of interest in existing transactions, it has not historically always been clear whether or not they also owe fiduciary duties.
This was resolved by the case of Vivendi SA and anor v Richards and anor [2013], in which the High Court held that a shadow director will typically owe fiduciary duties in relation at least to the directions or instructions that he gives to the de jure directors. More particularly, the court held that a shadow director will normally owe the duty of good faith (or loyalty) when giving such directions or instructions.
In reaching their conclusion, the court noted that it is usually the case that a shadow director will have assumed responsibility for acting in relation to the company's affairs and will have asked the de jure directors to exercise their powers that exist exclusively for the benefit of the company. The court also stated that a person who gives directions or instructions to a company's de jure directors in the belief that they will be acted on, can fairly be described as assuming responsibility for the company's affairs, at least as regards the directions or instructions that person gives.
Therefore if a person comes within the definition of a shadow director, they should look to act in accordance with the duties imposed on de jure directors, as failure to do so may result in liability.
Hope this helps - put broadly it is more about what you do, how you act and how others act towards you than it is about formal title.
Great that Moshiri brought this new board member in. Baz & Ped in toffee tv speaked well about it
Many thanks Esk (I think!).
Hopefully.Don't think one fella who briefly worked for the RBS brought down the banking system.
The fact he's a BILLIONAIRE's trusted finance guy & confidante is far more important than the RBS link.
Am trying to imagine this coming up in a conversation on the other lot's forum. How sophisticated and informed we toffees are!Ok short legal lesson coming up: (skip to final paragraph for summary if TL;DR.)
Types of directors
There are three types of directors:
Duties owed by directors
- De jure director: a director who is formally appointed and whose appointment is registered at Companies House.
- De facto director: “any person occupying the position of a director, by whatever name called”, as defined in section 250 of the Companies Act 2006 (“CA”).
- Shadow director: a person “in accordance with whose directions or instructions the directors of the company are accustomed to act”, as defined in section 251 CA.
De jure directors owe the fiduciary duties of good faith and loyalty as well as the common law duties to exercise skill and care to the company / shareholders. They also owe statutory duties including those set out in the CA, such as the duty to act within their powers, the duty to promote the success of the company, and the duty to avoid conflicts of interest.
However, what if you have not been formally appointed?
De facto directors
If a person is held to be a de facto director, they will owe fiduciary duties as well as duties imposed by statute. This is because de facto directors come under the general definition of a director in section 250 CA.
Accordingly, any breaches of the fiduciary duties or statutory duties can result in liability, even where the individual has not been formally appointed.
It is not always abundantly clear whether or not someone is a de facto director. However, in the case of Smithton Ltd v Naggar and others [2014], it was held that one of the key factors in determining whether someone was a de facto director was whether that person was part of the corporate governance system of the company and whether he assumed the status and function of a director so as to make himself responsible as if he were a director. The judge also gave further guidance on the matter, namely:
Shadow directors
- That a job title will not be a deciding factor - the court will also look at what the director actually did.
- It is not a defence to show that the director, in good faith, thought he was not acting as a director. This question will be determined objectively.
- Any acts done by the director should be looked at in the relevant context.
- A relevant factor will be whether the company considered the individual to be a director and held them out as such, and whether third parties considered the individual to be a director.
- The fact that a person is consulted about directorial decisions, or their approval is sought on such decisions, does not in general make them a director because they are not making the decision.
Although there are some express requirements in the CA which state that shadow directors will be liable in the same way as de jure directors, e.g. in relation to wrongful trading, director disqualification and in relation to the declaration of interest in existing transactions, it has not historically always been clear whether or not they also owe fiduciary duties.
This was resolved by the case of Vivendi SA and anor v Richards and anor [2013], in which the High Court held that a shadow director will typically owe fiduciary duties in relation at least to the directions or instructions that he gives to the de jure directors. More particularly, the court held that a shadow director will normally owe the duty of good faith (or loyalty) when giving such directions or instructions.
In reaching their conclusion, the court noted that it is usually the case that a shadow director will have assumed responsibility for acting in relation to the company's affairs and will have asked the de jure directors to exercise their powers that exist exclusively for the benefit of the company. The court also stated that a person who gives directions or instructions to a company's de jure directors in the belief that they will be acted on, can fairly be described as assuming responsibility for the company's affairs, at least as regards the directions or instructions that person gives.
Therefore if a person comes within the definition of a shadow director, they should look to act in accordance with the duties imposed on de jure directors, as failure to do so may result in liability.
Hope this helps - put broadly it is more about what you do, how you act and how others act towards you than it is about formal title.
What if it was Moshiri who decided?Elstone on the board....shakes head
I guess the old regime won,t let go.
Many thanks Esk (I think!).