Farhad Moshiri

[Billy Dean]

Then they're thick.

Far easier (and efficient) ways to launder money than through professional sports.

There's a bit about it here (just general football, not us in particular)

Football Money Laundering: a Beginner’s Guide

Organised crime gangs cash in on the beautiful game and Europol's Operation Matrioskas reveals how.

bylinetimes.com

 

[Billy Liar]

 

[Jo3Fr3sh]

There's a bit about it here (just general football, not us in particular)

Football Money Laundering: a Beginner’s Guide

Organised crime gangs cash in on the beautiful game and Europol's Operation Matrioskas reveals how.

bylinetimes.com

Everton are bar none the premier washing machine for 1 Alistair Usmanov.

 

[Toffeepot]

Everton are bar none the premier washing machine for 1 Alistair Usmanov.

Where does his dirty money come from?

 

[4737carlin]

If there was actual money laundering involved, Moshiri surely would've been crucified by the UK government a year ago, with the added knock on effect on the club. As has been said above, he's got nothing out of it and the way things are looking he might not at any point.

Not sure about laundering but washing yes, don't forget with washing, the money that comes out might be less but its clean money.
Problem is the days of these two crooks kicking back and chilling out in the UK are hopefully over, so they have no real incentive anymore apart from to try and maximise what they can on the stadium.
Would love too see Panorama expose them.

 

[4737carlin]

Where does his dirty money come from?

Property, steel, tanks and guns

 

[Toffeepot]

Property, steel, tanks and guns

how is that dirty money in the strictest meaning?

 

[good times bad times]

Not sure about laundering but washing yes, don't forget with washing, the money that comes out might be less but its clean money.
Problem is the days of these two crooks kicking back and chilling out in the UK are hopefully over, so they have no real incentive anymore apart from to try and maximise what they can on the stadium.
Would love too see Panorama expose them.

Laundering and washing are the same thing Jenny. You should know this as you do Bill's for him.

 

[4737carlin]

how is that dirty money in the strictest meaning?

Stiff from shady deals tax men don't know about.
It's a high scale version of for example drug dealers buying things for cash and selling them again, it's why when you go in a casino they write down exactly what you spend and check now with the HMRC you are actually earning that much legally, if not someone will want to now you got it.

 

[4737carlin]

Laundering and washing are the same thing Jenny. You should know this as you do Bill's for him.

Yeah it's what Moshiri has been using us for, when people say he has put x amount into Everton, he hasn't, he has moved money through Everton, not the same thing.

 

[Toffeepot]

Stiff from shady deals tax men don't know about.
It's a high scale version of for example drug dealers buying things for cash and selling them again, it's why when you go in a casino they write down exactly what you spend and check now with the HMRC you are actually earning that much legally, if not someone will want to now you got it.

I know what money laundering is as per drug dealers in casinos etc
What I'm asking is how is his money dirty and why does he need to wash/launder it when he was supporting the regime that rules his home nation and therefore within Russian law. Not saying I agree with the exploitation of the Russian people by these arrangements but I am saying I can't see where he would need Everton to act as a Laundry

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

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[Jo3Fr3sh]

I know what money laundering is as per drug dealers in casinos etc
What I'm asking is how is his money dirty and why does he need to wash/launder it when he was supporting the regime that rules his home nation and therefore within Russian law. Not saying I agree with the exploitation of the Russian people by these arrangements but I am saying I can't see where he would need Everton to act as a Laundry

Western sanctions target these oligarchs and their billions so they can't live abroad outside of Russia. They don't like living in Russia and love living the High Life in Europe. This is why they need access to clean money. It's part of their lifestyle.

 

[Toffeepot]

Western sanctions target these oligarchs and their billions so they can't live abroad outside of Russia. They don't like living in Russia and love living the High Life in Europe. This is why they need access to clean money. It's part of their lifestyle.

They were only targetted after Russia invaded Ukraine
That doesn't explain it at all. They had no issue converting money, investing money, spending money prior to the war

 

[Jo3Fr3sh]

They were only targetted after Russia invaded Ukraine
That doesn't explain it at all. They had no issue converting money, investing money, spending money prior to the war

Good point. Let me have a think. Not giving up on this cause I think there is something there. Call it a hunch