Farhad Moshiri

[BirkenheadBlue]

My only slight worry is that Moshiri is still attached to Usmanov - and this actually works against us in some way with transfer dealings.

How would that work?

 

[allen]

Evertonians gutted we didn't get Mourinho. How quickly expectations have been transformed by Moshiri.

Exciting times.

 

[Hangleton]

How would that work?

Preferential deals for them buying our players I guess.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

potential? we are miles behind, players wanting out, unable to attract a half decent manager, dilapidated ground, Moshiri must be thinking what the **** have i done here? Usmanov like Mourinho is not coming, Lukaku like Stones is not staying, the only reason Barkley is still here is because he too fat to fit in the taxi with Lukaku and Stones. our highlight this year has been Liverpool losing to Sevilla, what a sad excuse for a football club we have become.

Jesus wept.

If you think we are a "sad excuse for a football club", then please toddle off and support someone else.

Your posting history is an unrelenting barrage of the most ridiculous OTT negativity.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Preferential deals for them buying our players I guess.

Preferential deals for a club not controlled by Usmanov (which he doesn't even have a partial say in running) and indeed controlled by a group of people he by all accounts can't stand.

Sounds legit.

 

[Hangleton]

Preferential deals for a club not controlled by Usmanov (which he doesn't even have a partial say in running) and indeed controlled by a group of people he by all accounts can't stand.

Sounds legit.

Yes, probably nothing to worry about.
How would you feel if Usmanov owned 30% of Liverpool?

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Yes, probably nothing to worry about.
How would you feel if Usmanov owned 30% of Liverpool?

Less enthused, but from a gut point of view, not a logical one.

Irrelevant really though - can't see a scenario where BK would have sold to someone who owned a chunk of them.

 

[hibbo'sclass]

It's very unlikely a Court would see a scheme of arrangement as necessary given the requirement to have the agreement of 75% of the shares not held by the bidder for the scheme to be approved.

If Moshiri approached the court already owning or having the right of ownership to 75% (approx) the court (in fact his own lawyers prior to approach in the court) would point out that 90% is a lower threshold than 75% plus 75% of the remaining 25%.

If we ignore his options agreement and just look at his existing holdings (I'm not sure we can ignore the options agreeement but for the purposes of this, in theory) the threshold by going via a scheme of arrangement drops slightly to 87.5%.

You've picked me up wrong mate.
Mischievious - wasn't talking about BHHL going fpr the scheme but an unrelated third party.

 

[hibbo'sclass]

My argument here relates to the consequences of the idea that it has been a deliberate act by Moshiri to transfer his Arsenal holdings (indirectly through R&W) to Usmanov, and acquire Everton shares in the full knowledge that Usmanov will then dispose of his Arsenal holdings and join him at Everton.

I think it could be argued that in doing so two connected parties are effectively in a position to control or influence two competing clubs which is a clear breach of Premier League rules.

So, in essence ot works for anyone other than Usmanov/related to Usmanov.

I suppose the problem with getting away with doing it is the lower level of proof required by the PL in order to sanction.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

My argument here relates to the consequences of the idea that it has been a deliberate act by Moshiri to transfer his Arsenal holdings (indirectly through R&W) to Usmanov, and acquire Everton shares in the full knowledge that Usmanov will then dispose of his Arsenal holdings and join him at Everton.

I think it could be argued that in doing so two connected parties are effectively in a position to control or influence two competing clubs which is a clear breach of Premier League rules.

But you'd never be able to prove that was always the intention though, so it's a moot point.

The Usmanov story has no legs unless he sells off his stake in Arsenal.

On a side note to that Forbes reported at the time of Moshiri's exit from Arsenal that the £200m share sale to Usmanov over valued Arsenal, which struck me as slightly odd at the time.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeoza...lly-pay-1-9-billion-for-arsenal/#79620c134d7e

 

[allen]

My argument here relates to the consequences of the idea that it has been a deliberate act by Moshiri to transfer his Arsenal holdings (indirectly through R&W) to Usmanov, and acquire Everton shares in the full knowledge that Usmanov will then dispose of his Arsenal holdings and join him at Everton.

I think it could be argued that in doing so two connected parties are effectively in a position to control or influence two competing clubs which is a clear breach of Premier League rules.

That would explain why you and others have said there aren't even any whispers of this in official circles.

Either it's definitely not happening, or they are doing it as quietly as possible, leaving no trail of an agreement.

Without getting into probabilities, both scenarios are possible, even if only one is legal.

 

[RomanReigns]

i'd take arsene wenger

 

[Dario Terracotta]

i'd take arsene wenger

lol

 

[bizzaro]

Jesus wept.

If you think we are a "sad excuse for a football club", then please toddle off and support someone else.

Your posting history is an unrelenting barrage of the most ridiculous OTT negativity.

Mediocrity.

We no longer are.

Now Kenwright isnt the main man.

 

[The Esk]

You've picked me up wrong mate.
Mischievious - wasn't talking about BHHL going fpr the scheme but an unrelated third party.

Apologies, yes an unrelated third party could with the agreement of BHHL (assuming BHHL exercises their options) acquire the whole Club by using that strategy.

However Moshiri would then be left with no ownership of Everton.

A very unlikely scenario.