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Financial Fair Play investigation

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Narntwinnysivven said:
If your employer underpays your tax HMRC come right back to you for it. Other than rare instances like that, there wouldn’t be much scope for HMRC to audit you via PAYE unless you were claiming additional out of office expenses, which if they looked dodgy would have you having to account for.
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Ok, so within PAYE they would go after employer anyway.

I mean the comparison doesnt work ether way. They have no relevance to the PL.
 
Villa_Fan said:
I think most other PL clubs would look sympathetically at Everton. Its not like you're trying to cheat like City, and the bottom line is money counts for everything. The PL is a better league having Everton in it rather than any of the teams coming up from the Championship. There is more money in it for clubs having a game against Everton as opposed to a game against Burnely, Sheff Utd or Boro
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The issue is mate, that for 8 teams, there is a very clear conflict of interest. So it doesnt matter what is fair, or correct, or legal, as they are clearly biased operators.

I'm not having a go at them, lets be fair, we would both be the same with our clubs.

But it's why having a body, composed of those club, to audit, act as a regulator, a prosecutor and effectively judge/jury on these matters is not appropriate.

There needs to be better separation and impartiality (or some impartiality).
 

Villa_Fan said:
I think a points deduction is highly unlikely, I expect, if found guilty, the penalty will be a transfer ban or embargo or a European football ban
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I would agree, for a first offence, when we are getting back under the rules again this year, it would be ludicrous. Who remembers "dont punish the fans" and how hollow this was?

However people are more connected than me think it will be points.
 
catcherintherye said:
Not to the PL.
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Estoppel of various types may or may not cover that.

The argument was that once the League aka the Regulator had made a determination then this could not be revisited. Surely what goes for the EFL also goes for the PL.

The Independent Panel said about this view that the League could analyse it in the year of the Projection ie the Year of the accounts, the following year and the year after that, maybe longer in reality.

Will be a fascinating test case anyway.
 
catcherintherye said:
I would agree, for a first offence, when we are getting back under the rules again this year, it would be ludicrous. Who remembers "dont punish the fans" and how hollow this was?

However people are more connected than me think it will be points.
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I am inclined to think that people saying it will be a point deduction are just looking for clicks and to be noticed. I don't think the detail of the charges have been released so it will be very difficult to make any sort of informed opinion. The facts are EFC has been charged, the financials are a mess, we have just been through Covid, the cost of the stadium has gone up 50%, you lost a dodgy investor due to political issues and this is a first offense. These mitigating factors make it sound like a slap on the wrist type penalty to me. And as someone else mentioned, if EFC get a points deduction then Man City will be playing Sunday League football in the near future
 

Villa_Fan said:
I am inclined to think that people saying it will be a point deduction are just looking for clicks and to be noticed. I don't think the detail of the charges have been released so it will be very difficult to make any sort of informed opinion. The facts are EFC has been charged, the financials are a mess, we have just been through Covid, the cost of the stadium has gone up 50%, you lost a dodgy investor due to political issues and this is a first offense. These mitigating factors make it sound like a slap on the wrist type penalty to me. And as someone else mentioned, if EFC get a points deduction then Man City will be playing Sunday League football in the near future
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I agree with your rationale really, but we will see.

I also agree with you that this is not a conspiracy against Everton. To me it's a complicated set of rules, governing an area of company performance that is disputed (across all sectors) at a unique time for businesses, ran by a regulator who is not up to the job. So you get ludicrous outcomes. Its not conspiracy though, its structure flaws alongside culture arrogance/ineptitude.
 
catcherintherye said:
I agree with your rationale really, but we will see.

I also agree with you that this is not a conspiracy against Everton. To me it's a complicated set of rules, governing an area of company performance that is disputed (across all sectors) at a unique time for businesses, ran by a regulator who is not up to the job. So you get ludicrous outcomes. Its not conspiracy though, its structure flaws alongside culture arrogance/ineptitude.
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Bruh.

We broke the rules.

Not just 1 year, but for 4, consecutive years.

xD
 

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