Financial Fair Play investigation

[catcherintherye]

That’s about £30m isn’t it, so we’d still be well in breach of P&S.

I'm honestly sure 100% sure mate.

We need to do better than 2017/18 which was a loss of £13m.

Predictions seem to range from 50-70m loss (I'm inclined to think it will be the smaller end, but need to see the accounts properly first). Within that 50m there are also provisions to write off for stadium, youth team, womens team etc. I dont know on the stadium, but womens and youth team may account for 10-15m.

So if you subtract 50 by say 15 you are at 35. We can see where whether USM is allowed to be written down or not is a key determining factor.

All hypothetical of course, but I'm trying to work on as concrete numbers as possible.

 

[kenada_blue]

Asked the same question - apparently there isn't.

But didn't they listed the rules that City have broken? 100 or so over 10 year

We've just got the blanket "breach" which is odd as it's not specific.

 

[catcherintherye]

Asked the same question - apparently there isn't.

Ziegler first point is irrelevant. The PL have accepted the P& L accounts were under 105m. So they lost under £105m.

 

[neil999]

Are the premier league really gonna deduct points from man city and Everton, cant see it... Then will other clubs get sanctioned? Competition will become me a bit silly

 

[neil999]

I wonder if we will see contracts being handed out in lieu of potential transfer ban?

 

[Goat]

Ziegler first point is irrelevant. The PL have accepted the P& L accounts were under 105m. So they lost under £105m.

When did they accept anything?

 

[Dad watched Dixie]

I wonder if we will see contracts being handed out in lieu of potential transfer ban?

Tom Davies says hello

 

[maccavennie]

Just trying to catch up since last night.

Can someone summarise for me how many points we've been deducted today, along with prison sentences and fines

 

[Dad watched Dixie]

When did they accept anything?

In their public response to Leeds and Burnley

 

[Dymak]

Points have only been deducted twice by the PL = Portsmouth were deducted 9pts for going to administration and Boro, 3pts for missing a fixture.

Tottenham were deducted 12 points and banned from the FA Cup for dodgy accounting in the mid 90’s. The punishments were dished out in February 1994, with them scheduled to be enacted in the following 94/95 season.

Upon appeal, Tottenham were allowed to play in the 94/95 FA Cup, and eventually had their points deductions completely withdrawn after they agreed to pay several fines.

This was the FA rather than the PL, yet the points deductions were to apply to the Premier League competition of 94/95. So I’m not sure how that worked, with the PL and FA being different entities?

 

[MikeH72]

I'm honestly sure 100% sure mate.

We need to do better than 2017/18 which was a loss of £13m.

Predictions seem to range from 50-70m loss (I'm inclined to think it will be the smaller end, but need to see the accounts properly first). Within that 50m there are also provisions to write off for stadium, youth team, womens team etc. I dont know on the stadium, but womens and youth team may account for 10-15m.

So if you subtract 50 by say 15 you are at 35. We can see where whether USM is allowed to be written down or not is a key determining factor.

All hypothetical of course, but I'm trying to work on as concrete numbers as possible.

We’ll only know for sure when we see the 2021/22 accounts anyway. Esk is forecasting that our rolling 3 year loss will be over £200m so even knocking the USM sponsorship off that we won’t be anywhere near the £105m figure needed to be on the right side of the rules.

 

[Connor]

Just trying to catch up since last night.

Can someone summarise for me how many points we've been deducted today, along with prison sentences and fines

We're playing in the North West Counties League next season as AFC Everton

 

[Goat]

In their public response to Leeds and Burnley

Which was?

 

[Goat]

We’ll only know for sure when we see the 2021/22 accounts anyway. Esk is forecasting that our rolling 3 year loss will be over £200m so even knocking the USM sponsorship off that we won’t be anywhere near the £105m figure needed to be on the right side of the rules.

We havent even seen the accounts we are being charged with.

 

[maccavennie]

We're playing in the North West Counties League next season as AFC Everton

So your saying there's a chance we may have a tilt at the title!!