2021/22 Frank Lampard

[mahermi1]

How anyone can blame Frank for these cowardly players, Gordon exempt from that, I don't know. Went the game and the amount of players terrified to turn with the ball was sickening. Sometimes you need your players to be brave in a crisis, think during this we've found out just how many of them we can trust.
Same time we just have to find a way to put 3 men in midfield, it was like a training session at times in the second half foe Wolves, Neves could have played in a dinner suit, no one got near him.

 

[roy vernon]

No Evertonian will want the manager who took them down to be hanging about. That's harsh on him, but I believe it to be the case. Moshiri may have inserted release clauses in his contract to keep severance costs down in the event the club were relegated and he was sacked.

In any case, I really do believe we have a lot of hope left here and that the mood is too gloomy. We have a big chance of going down. We have an even bigger chance of staying up. That's the way I read it. Maybe that changes after the Thursday game, but until such time I'm envisioning Everton and Lampard in the PL next season.

I don't know Dave, I would want Lampard to stay, even if he took us down and I don't believe I am on my own. The blame for any possible relegation lies squarely on the shoulders of Benitez', who has sucked the life blood out of this club and Moshiri, who appointed him, for reasons best known to himself, and continued to persevere with him fo so long, when it was apparent that he was a divisive and desasterous appointment, who's outdated approach to the game could have only one outcome.

I don't think any blue has confidence in the Iranian lunatic to get another managerial appointment correct and I believe there is little appetite amongst most of the fans to see yet another of Moshiri's appointments coming through the door. Better to just stick with Lampard. If we do, I think that Lampard may well, in the fullness of time, prove to be one of Moshiri's better ideas.

 

[Gilbert..]

That's not the point at all though is it?

Not saying deny that were in a relegation scrap. In fact, I think day one he should have called it for what is is and I've said this for a while;



... But Lampard has started to talk up the scale of the problem/how all the problems was before HIM and his staff. It's evasive and unnecessary (apart from self PR/damage limitation)

He's meant to represent a change, not just come in crying about what was before him.

If he wants to cry about what was before him - how about he starts with he's performing worse than Benitez.

He's arse covering and finger pointing and it's not a good look/sign.

Embrace the challenge. Take responsibility. Forget the CV.

Well firstly i think he has tried to involve everyone in the mess. Himself included.
I dont really get the issue. This forum is full of that issue of how this clubs been run over the past few years. Its been woeful. And it looks like its getting this club relegated.
Its only the truth. I certainly wouldnt be bleedin shy in saying it.

 

[blu87554]

Was hoping since lampard was a midfielder himself, he would go strong on packing the midfield, bit disappointed he preserves with 2 wingers and 2 wing backs who aren’t good enough or up to the job. For gods sake he has to make us difficult for opposing team to break us down

could it be he doesnt want to be seen as an allardyce clone, but a lampard-ball sexy attack manager? I never understood this less than pragmatic approach too at chelsea. So what if you play a few games with 10 behind the ball, so what.

I still hope in Lampard coming good. Maybe its time his fancy backroom staff starts to throw some magic dust on Keane. When is Mina available again? Delph?

 

[GrandOldTeam]

How anyone can blame Frank for these cowardly players, Gordon exempt from that, I don't know. Went the game and the amount of players terrified to turn with the ball was sickening. Sometimes you need your players to be brave in a crisis, think during this we've found out just how many of them we can trust.
Same time we just have to find a way to put 3 men in midfield, it was like a training session at times in the second half foe Wolves, Neves could have played in a dinner suit, no one got near him.

I assume you blamed the cowardly players and not the manager prior to Lampard too?

I don't know Dave, I would want Lampard to stay, even if he took us down and I don't believe I am on my own. The blame for any possible relegation lies squarely on the shoulders of Benitez', who has sucked the life blood out of this club and Moshiri, who appointed him, for reasons best known to himself, and continued to persevere with him fo so long, when it was apparent that he was a divisive and desasterous appointment, who's outdated approach to the game could have only one outcome.

I don't think any blue has confidence in the Iranian lunatic to get another managerial appointment correct and I believe there is little appetite amongst most of the fans to see yet another of Moshiri's appointments coming through the door. Better to just stick with Lampard. If we do, I think that Lampard may well, in the fullness of time, prove to be one of Moshiri's better ideas.

Baffled by this view.

Mate, if we get relegated it means Lampard will have done worse than Benitez.

Lampard come in with us 16th in the table, 4 points clear with 18 games to play. He also didn't/hasn't had the players missing that Benitez had... (remember the team that went to Chelsea?!)

The 'we can't keep sacking managers' ideology over looking at results is what give Benitez too long.

 

[Grogu the blue]

could it be he doesnt want to be seen as an allardyce clone, but a lampard-ball sexy attack manager? I never understood this less than pragmatic approach too at chelsea. So what if you play a few games with 10 behind the ball, so what.

I still hope in Lampard coming good. Maybe its time his fancy backroom staff starts to throw some magic dust on Keane. When is Mina available again? Delph?

Yeah sod the attacking down the flanks, we haven’t got the players to do the job, negate the opposing teams midfield and frustrate them, every game now the others midfield dictate everything because they are afforded so much time on the ball

 

[chippy1722]

I assume you blamed the cowardly players and not the manager prior to Lampard too?



Baffled by this view.

Mate, if we get relegated it means Lampard will have done worse than Benitez.

Lampard come in with us 16th in the table, 4 points clear with 18 games to play. He also didn't/hasn't had the players missing that Benitez had... (remember the team that went to Chelsea?!)

The 'we can't keep sacking managers' ideology over looking at results is what give Benitez too long.

Benitez left the club in this position, Lampard took over a team with no confidence and judging by the players reaction to Benitez going, they were in a worse position off the field.
You can’t compare a manager taking over on a shocking position with a manager who caused it in the first place.

I actually think if we can stay up we will be back to to finishing 8-11th next season.

 

[Terrytowelling]

Moaning, excuse-making, deflection and thin-skinned, tetchy narcissism are entirely Lampard’s make-up and MO.

No coaching pedigree, no acquired insight or self-awareness, just a coterie of people reassuring him he’s brilliant since he was a teenager, and that includes the media.

Staggering appointment.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Benitez left the club in this position, Lampard took over a team with no confidence and judging by the players reaction to Benitez going, they were in a worse position off the field.
You can’t compare a manager taking over on a shocking position with a manager who caused it in the first place.

I actually think if we can stay up we will be back to to finishing 8-11th next season.

The thing is mate, if we're blaming previous manager form for current manager performance - then our form also collapsed under Ancelotti. I recall plenty of commentary around how Everton delivered the same amount of points under Ancelotti for the last 13 of last season, as Benitez for the first 13. We sacked him not long after.

 

[Street end man]

He has certainly provided the shortest "new manager bounce" of all the recent previous panic driven appointments.

That said he's here until at least the end of the season and that's the only time we can judge him really.

 

[davek]

Never take a job at a bookies, Dave.

As I qualified last night: it's true that we're hot favourites in our current form to go down. But football never usually stays like this - running along lines we see on paper.

We are in grave danger here, but the odds are we stay up. And yes, the bookies even concede that too.

 

[Grogu the blue]

Moaning, excuse-making, deflection and thin-skinned, tetchy narcissism are entirely Lampard’s make-up and MO.

No coaching pedigree, no acquired insight or self-awareness, just a coterie of people reassuring him he’s brilliant since he was a teenager, and that includes the media.

Staggering appointment.

Strange appointment, he seems to try to play to expansive football, with 6 fullbacks who are basically crap

 

[bitter-no-better]

The concern I have with frank is he needs to define how his team is to line up and play. Irrespective of injuries. He is worrying too much about the opposition. I can understand that if we are playing city. But not most other teams. Stick to a balanced formation and don’t let us see Coleman and JJK on the same flank.

 

[roy vernon]

I assume you blamed the cowardly players and not the manager prior to Lampard too?



Baffled by this view.

Mate, if we get relegated it means Lampard will have done worse than Benitez.

Lampard come in with us 16th in the table, 4 points clear with 18 games to play. He also didn't/hasn't had the players missing that Benitez had... (remember the team that went to Chelsea?!)

The 'we can't keep sacking managers' ideology over looking at results is what give Benitez too long.

If we get relegated it will, in a large way, be attributable to Benitez' totally demoralizing both players and fans. In the case of the players, some of them now have so little confidence left that they look petrified of the football. The morale of that team was left totally on the floor by Benitez and now, the least setback and they go to pieces.

By the way, if you look back on the display at Chelsea, we played a team with youngsters who would never have got near the bench if he had any alternative, and, we were Incredibly lucky. It was a great result, but, in fairness if we had lost by a similar score as we did at Spurs we couldn't have complained.

Ask yourself this,do you have any confidence in Moshiri making a better appointment, or, do you think he will mess up again? I know what my money would be on.

 

[chicoazul]

There’s sufficient talent to have Everton performing much better than they are. Agreed @GrandOldTeam on that the right leader takes responsibility and uses the resources available to plot the relegation form +1 point that would keep them up.