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2021/22 Frank Lampard

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I never understood why people fully blamed Benitez. He was awful and needed sacking but it was as if they hadn't watched exactly the same form under Ancelotti.

Now Frank has worse form and people are still blaming Benitez.

Take off the RS hating specs and see it is the players, it was always the players.

I've never hated a squad like this one.

Benitez is 95% to blame, 90% being generous.
 
And the form before his arrival?

Where were we this time last season? I'd say 6th/7th? Pushing for Europe definitely.

Obviously form just before he arrived was disconcerting, but Benitez kicked all of the life out of us. Ancelotti showed us what could be wrung out of that group of players, but Benitez being the spent force he was just sucked the confidence out of us - and this is what Lampard has to contend with now. He doesn't get us playing then it's on him.
 
Pickford
Patterson, Keane, Godfrey, Mykolenko

Allan, Doucoure, Gomes

Van Der Beek, Alli

Richarlison

4-5-1, proper Christmas Tree formation fist half. Onus on midfield runners supporting and getting Richie in behind. Looked our only threat yesterday...

Gray and Gordon to come on 2nd half when legs are tired.

We have to remember that Allan Doucoure and Gomes midfield 3 had us second last Christmas. We now lack James and a fit DCL plus Digne (and a whole load of confidence)

If we accept Mykolenko is no Digne, but Patterson could be as good going forward, we are essentially replacing James and Calvert-lewin with Alli and VDB. Different styles, so we have to adapt the way we play.

For the love of God, we have to try something!!!
You are right. The ineffective winger stuff has to end. Gordon is a school boy and Grey has run out of steam. We will never score again trying to hit Bambi with high long balls or even worse Richarlison who isnt a target man. Try to play football as a team. Not a Gordon one man show who is laughable ineffective!
 

So what did he wring out of the players after Christmas 2nd half of the season?

Ancelotti had the mark of these players that's why he got out as soon as possible.

Benitez thought he could lay down the law but the players saw him off.

Frank will be next if the board aren't strong.

The players and culture are absolute poison. It needs to be burned and the players castrated so they cannot reproduce any footballing offspring.
 
So what did he wring out of the players after Christmas 2nd half of the season?

Ancelotti had the mark of these players that's why he got out as soon as possible.

Benitez thought he could lay down the law but the players saw him off.

Frank will be next if the board aren't strong.

The players and culture are absolute poison. It needs to be burned and the players castrated so they cannot reproduce any footballing offspring.
That assumes a lot...
 
Our away form is terrible and we have a squad that is mentally weak. We all know this, but I'm not sure Lampard is going to change these things by talking openly about them, if anything it just amplifies these facts. He needs to get back to creating the perception that things are going to change because so often things in football are a self-fulfilling narrative.

The character of this squad means they are not going to respond positively to receiving any criticism and perhaps even furthering the idea that all home games are 'must win' adds pressure that will cause them to crumble. They obviously are must win, but I think the manager is going to have to find a way to relieve that pressure.

I still feel that rightly or wrongly you get much more out of today's players by inspiring them rather than shouting at them. Lampard needs to find a way to do that, to get them to believe in his tactics and game plan. Obviously getting those things right helps people to buy into them.
 

I assume you blamed the cowardly players and not the manager prior to Lampard too?



Baffled by this view.

Mate, if we get relegated it means Lampard will have done worse than Benitez.

Lampard come in with us 16th in the table, 4 points clear with 18 games to play. He also didn't/hasn't had the players missing that Benitez had... (remember the team that went to Chelsea?!)

The 'we can't keep sacking managers' ideology over looking at results is what give Benitez too long.

How many managers fault is it before we realise the players, or most of them aren't up to it and some of them are too old, too injured and not brave enough ?
 
I never understood why people fully blamed Benitez. He was awful and needed sacking but it was as if they hadn't watched exactly the same form under Ancelotti.

Now Frank has worse form and people are still blaming Benitez.


Take off the RS hating specs and see it is the players, it was always the players.

I've never hated a squad like this one.

Ancelotti got us to 10th in the league, people said we shouldn't expect Benitez to match or better that even though those same people said by adding Gray, Townsend etc the squad was stronger, Benitez had 1 win in 14 prem games, Lampard 1 win in 6 prem games, how is that worse?
 
I hate to say it but I think as harsh as it would be he’s got to go already

Nothing against him but he’s swimming with sharks in this relegation fight. Dyche and Hodgson have been there and Leeds may very well pull away with bamford back and a new manager

This is serious now. I genuinely didn’t think there was a danger but Sunday’s results have now put us in there for real
 
And the form before his arrival?
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So what did he wring out of the players after Christmas 2nd half of the season?

Ancelotti had the mark of these players that's why he got out as soon as possible.

Benitez thought he could lay down the law but the players saw him off.

Frank will be next if the board aren't strong.

The players and culture are absolute poison. It needs to be burned and the players castrated so they cannot reproduce any footballing offspring.
Ancelotti literally received an offer he couldn't refuse! And he has already had success with the choice. It had more to do with his love for Real Madrid than 'getting out as soon as possible'
Having said that, he is more suited to more determined players than many of ours but he still managed 59pts last season.
Benitez complained about having nothing to spend but had the same players bar Iceland, and then added a few more. He binned off our 2 most creative players and was utter garbage, lets have it for what it is. He was toxic in every way, including his connection to the RS, but definitely not limited to it. Pride/Morale/Love of the job all disappeared in our players under that egotistical muppet and Lampard is not doing worse than him yet despite a poor start.
Their confidence is sapped and Lampard is trying to get them to play actual football again
 
Yeah, it's fair enough that I can share my own opinion, on my own account.

I'll call a spade, a spade - I've often said he comes across well;



... But the past couple of interviews I've personally found a few of his comments to be disappointing for the reasons I explained. They're also directory contradictory to what he was saying a few weeks back when he was quick to dismiss what happened before him. Now when Everton lose, he puts the onus and blame on what happened before him.

Yeah mate, of course you have a right to express your opinion just as much as anyone.

I do think though, yeah he comes across well to you following wins, not so well following losses. Part of that is just football.

Another part says to me that when someone is reading into his language and words then it's more conjecture than say perhaps something more objective like when we've just lost a game of footy and someone is critical of his tactics, team selection or subs.

I was probably wrong to hold you to higher account for expressing your opinion as the site owner, it's just when things are as grim as they ever have been since 94 or 98 then I just feel reading into his wording and being critical only serves to add to the negativity in a time we need literally any and all available positivity.
 

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