2021/22 Frank Lampard

[bullybeef]

I really hoped Fronk would give us the bounce factor.

Sadly, it hasn’t happened and I fear that Fronk is out of his depth here in this current situation.

I feel for him and only hope that we keep him in place when we get relegated.

 

[4737carlin]

Salomón Rondon
Holgate
Iwobi
Tosun
El Ghazi

Two of those players are the only ones to score in our last seven games i think, and both have then been dropped by Frank from the starting 11

 

[GrandOldTeam]

He can't call the players out and not point fingers at the same time
The players come out with statements like 'nowhere to hide' but then hide behind the manager.
That capitulation was all on them yesterday and I would be suprised if FL wasn't furious with them, so I'm glad he pointed his fingers, because I am too

Of course he can. By pointing the fingers I'm referring to him pointing fingers of blame generally. Often it's at problems before him.

By alsonot immediately following up that comment with "it's not the tactics" and claiming the tactics was the first 20 minutes.

It comes across as deflection, something he's been doing a lot of. Something I've commented on long before his latest comments;

I'm also concerned with how he's gone into self preservation mode.

Comments like this are coming in;

"“It has been a long time the players haven’t won games, it is impossible to change that overnight"

“Myself and the staff came in with the team on a bad run… used to the feeling of losing and not getting points"

It's like he's shirking. Too evasive. Too deflective. Basically shrugging.

And @BigDuncTributeBand demonstrated better than me;

Wish he was as good at setting up a team as he was covering his arse.

Newcastle
“I have come to a situation where we have to get better in a lot of things. I’ve come into the club when they were on a run of results that’s left them in the position we’re in. It’s my job to change that but there isn’t a magic wand on that front,”

Southampton
“I know they’re good lads, I know they want to react, but sometimes when you’ve been in a hard run of form away from home – and generally before I got here – it’s easy to seep back into,”

City
“If the table doesn’t look great in a couple of weeks, so be it. It didn’t look great when I came,”

Spurs
“We’re 17th for a reason: before I got here. There’s a clear discrepancy in home and away form, issues that were there before me and don’t take care of themselves overnight. The players understand the gravity of the situation. They understood it before I arrived because they had been on a long run without a win,”

Wolves
“Myself and the staff came in with the team on a bad run, used to the feeling of losing and not getting points,”

And...



Constant deflection, finger pointing.

It was only the other week he was giving it this as well;



He's always arse covering and finger pointing and it's not a good look/sign.

Embrace the challenge. Take responsibility. Forget the CV.

 

[davek]

He's been here 49 days but he has to take his share of the blame?

Dont undestand that.

He should be judged. But not now. He took over at the end of January and he's been here weeks.

He was brought in to save us from the drop. If we stay up he'll be judged a success; if we drop out of the PL he'll be seen to have failed.

...but that's another 2.5 months and 11 games away.

Let him do his job. It's way too early to question his tactics and management style.

 

[davek]

I'm very down on our defensive options at the minute. The mistakes I'm seeing are basic and aren't due to a system.

I'm perfectly happy to try and play defensive counter attack football away from home, but we still need to have a structure for when we break. It can't be total park the bus anti football.

I think we need to try and play on the front foot at home though. We need to maximise the benefit of our crowd and that means being aggressive and getting the ball forward quickly.

We've seen the winning formula. The games we get beat in are down to us being adventurous too early. Doesn't matter whether that's home or away. The game against City should be the template we use for the remaining 11 games. Drill that into them and let them know that's how we play without exception. Hand them an identity.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

He's been here 49 days but he has to take his share of the blame?

Dont undestand that.

He should be judged. But not now. He took over at the end of January and he's been here weeks.

He was brought in to save us from the job. If we stay up he'll be judged a success; if we drop out of the PL he'll be seen to have failed.

...but that's another 2.5 months and 11 games away.

Let him do his job. It's way too early to question his tactics and management style.

You was on Ferguson's back after 1 game...

No Everton manager gets a complete free pass. Not one.

This fella has to stop trying to continually pass the buck, and he has to learn that we can't go away from home and press as high up the pitch as Man City/Liverpool do.

 

[argietoffee]

Calling out your players the way he did yesterday is post peak Mourinho and will lead to toxicity between management and players.

I dont disagree with what Frank said, Im just not sure he should have said it. There is nothing to gain from it with this lot, there will be no reaction.

Most of the players will still be here long after Frank is yet another managerial casualty of our basket case club.

The hiring has been disgraceful since Moshiri landed. How many of these players are resilient? You actually can interview pointing directly at that and get pyschologists specialised in observation to advise about this key characteristic.

Andre Gomes went into a deep depression at Barca when he did not make the grade. Im not making light of depression, but did we really need to spunk 25 big ones and a long term contract for a guy who was having difficulties coping? Mick Keane had been having issues long before his contract was renewed. Seriously, you wouldnt run a corner shop like that.

We need fighters and have mostly a bunch of pampered weaklings who dont like the having to perform part of being professional sportsmen.

The only ones who can keep us up are the 36000 regulars at Goodison and teams of prayers from religious orders and masses said, and some voodoo dolls and black magic.

Survival will not come from those overpaid melts.

 

[riddick]

People criticizing Frank's tactics, I mean, what would YOU do? And I'm not saying "you don't know what the F you're talking about". These players are just so crap, they get demoralized by conceding a throw in ffs. It's a no win situation. Yes, a 3 man midfield is ideal but we don't currently have 3 midfielders. We have Doucoure and..... I don't even know what Gomes is, Delph is MIA and Allan suspended. We can't sit back with a back 5 because the defenders just don't have any idea how to do their jobs properly.

 

[davek]

You was on Ferguson's back after 1 game...

No Everton manager gets a complete free pass. Not one.

This fella has to stop trying to continually pass the buck, and he has to learn that we can't go away from home and press as high up the pitch as Man City/Liverpool do.

He wasn't Everton manager. He was never getting the job.

He's here (Lampard) for weeks. How can any of this be fairly laid at his door?

You said a few weeks back that you'd "roll the dice again" - who would that have been to bring in?

 

[Pittsburgh Footy]

Frank Lampard is, quite literally, the least of our concerns

He's not a miracle worker, and now he's calling it exactly as he sees it.

And it's very similar to what we've been saying on this board for quite some time about the mentality of these players

I don't understand why anyone would be unhappy about him calling out the players as we've been saying for forever, and just wanted a manager to not sugar coat things

 

[davek]

People criticizing Frank's tactics, I mean, what would YOU do? And I'm not saying "you don't know what the F you're talking about". These players are just so crap, they get demoralized by conceding a throw in ffs. It's a no win situation. Yes, a 3 man midfield is ideal but we don't currently have 3 midfielders. We have Doucoure and..... I don't even know what Gomes is, Delph is MIA and Allan suspended. We can't sit back with a back 5 because the defenders just don't have any idea how to do their jobs properly.

The only thing I'd lay at Lampard's door is the signing of Alli - that was one horrific waste of a squad place. I know he wasn't officially in the club during the window, but he surely seen the situation in the defence at CB and CM.

Alli is a spare arse part.

 

[Bluerover]

Of course he can. By pointing the fingers I'm referring to him pointing fingers of blame generally. Often it's at problems before him.

By alsonot immediately following up that comment with "it's not the tactics" and claiming the tactics was the first 20 minutes.

It comes across as deflection, something he's been doing a lot of. Something I've commented on long before his latest comments;



And @BigDuncTributeBand demonstrated better than me;



And...



Constant deflection, finger pointing.

It was only the other week he was giving it this as well;



He's always arse covering and finger pointing and it's not a good look/sign.

Embrace the challenge. Take responsibility. Forget the CV.

There is a great saying that when one points a finger there are three pointing back at you.

This whole great Club is a flipping mess and has been for years. I love it to bits but it really is not good for my health.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

He wasn't Everton manager. He was never getting the job.

He's here (Lampard) for weeks. How can any of this be fairly laid at his door?

You said a few weeks back that you'd "roll the dice again" - who would that have been to bring in?

I wanted Lampard from all the names in the media.

If we lost to Newcastle/got spanked, if I was Moshiri knowing Lampard was never first choice - I'd have switched it/gambled. Nothing personal, but 6 league defeats in 7 would have been too much - wrong timing for him/Everton's survival come first.

Thankfully, he got the result and hopefully he can kick on and never look back. I'd like to see Lampard take us into a new season with a summer behind him and build - but, and I'm like a stuck record - he has to

1. stop deflecting and finger pointing (pointing at excuse after excuse), and learn this;

He's not the problem.

We all know this squad lack the mentality.

But he's contributing to the problem.

He's setting us up to fail - particularly away at home.

He's making us more vulnerable, and he's right;

• “There is only so much you can keep trying to butter someone up to get confidence,

Confidence comes from results and performances - being battered in every away game he's been here for removes whatever he says.

He's making the same mistakes, and he's not being held to account because;

1. Apathy/anger towards players.
2. "We can't keep sacking managers!"

Away from home, he has to be pragmatic. He has to recognise this team's defence is atrocious and this team is vulnerable.

He has to preserve whatever little confidence we have in a relegation fight. If you can't win, don't lose. If you lose, don't lose 5-0, 4-0...

To set us up to press so high up the pitch, with our defence and a midfield which can't tackle is absolute insanity. If he didn't learn that from Southampton or Newcastle, I hoped Spurs would have rammed it home.

Evidently based on Palace, it hasn't.

This isn't after the event cry arsing either - I've been crying it in for ages now.

If he sets us up again like that at Burnley and we lose, I'll lose faith in him.

 

[Gilbert..]

People criticizing Frank's tactics, I mean, what would YOU do? And I'm not saying "you don't know what the F you're talking about". These players are just so crap, they get demoralized by conceding a throw in ffs. It's a no win situation. Yes, a 3 man midfield is ideal but we don't currently have 3 midfielders. We have Doucoure and..... I don't even know what Gomes is, Delph is MIA and Allan suspended. We can't sit back with a back 5 because the defenders just don't have any idea how to do their jobs properly.

I agree with this. Who are these players he's going to play in this winning formation.
Wasnt a big part of getting benitez is that he was good at organising a defence. That went well.
I mean who else is there. Was Roy Hodgson a reasonable shout. He's got a rep at organising.
He sent the team out on a positive front foot yest. We had to try and get that first goal.
The collapse from this lot from 1 goal down shows how fragile they are. Which is disapointing but not a real surprise as we dont score goals away. Which again comes back to who is he going to call upon to rectify that. The options are so limited.
Again this club is paying the price for years of poor recruitment. Some asked yest how many good signings we've made in the last 3/4 years.
Im struggling to name any that have hugely improved the team.

 

[MikeH72]

The only thing I'd lay at Lampard's door is the signing of Alli - that was one horrific waste of a squad place. I know he wasn't officially in the club during the window, but he surely seen the situation in the defence at CB and CM.

Alli is a spare arse part.

That signing had absolutely nothing to do with Lampard imo. He has yet to start him once, I don’t believe he wanted him or had any input into the signing.