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That's a lie.
Zeitgeist
Player Valuation: £35m
Nonsense
My only gripe with Martinez was he was so stubborn and wouldn't change it up.
Not sure if he's developed as a coach as I can't say I followed his Belgium stint closely but they didn't sack him for 6 years I guess
He will go down in Everton history as the manager who relegated us and caused liqadation.
For this he deserves a statue outside the nearly completed stadium at Bramley Moore Dock.
For this he deserves a statue outside the nearly completed stadium at Bramley Moore Dock.
Ian
Player Valuation: £1m
Yeah you're right: that was, thankfully, the case and of course we did (usually) have a few good players.
I was just trying to offer a bit of a counter-argument to the view that these players are freakishly poor. They're not. The tactics, in so far as we have any, are just wrong, and the players are mostly not working hard enough. Both of those things can be improved by a good manager.
Ian
Player Valuation: £1m
He was poo. He tried, but he was poo. Worse than Maupay. And, adjusted for inflation, we paid more for him.
Zeitgeist
Player Valuation: £35m
I actually agree.
But I am unsure whether it's fully tactics or the attack because our attack is disgraceful
It's so bad it actually confuses me as to what the game plan is
I refuse to believe frank is telling gray and Gordon to not pick their heads up for a pass or hold it up waiting for the overlap, but it's so frequent and never changes so what's the deal
Ian
Player Valuation: £1m
That and he seemed both incapable and unwilling to coach the defence.
hopefully his last one
Zeitgeist
Player Valuation: £35m
Gonna be absolutely miserable this
Ian
Player Valuation: £1m
Yeah it's a genuine mystery. They've both shown they're capable of doing that at times in the past. Frank said himself he's asking the players to be bolder in the final third, which is exactly what they need to do. But as you say, they're ignoring those instructions so consistently. Why do they still get picked every game?
Wolves' goal the other day was a killer because there was literally no movement ahead of the ball. Then when we lost it, Onana was the only player busting a gut to get back and defend. He ran right past Iwobi, who was jogging, and almost managed to block the shot.
Both of these issues indicate a serious lack of courage and commitment. The question is whether those qualities are just inherent in players or can they be instilled by a good manager. I think at least to an extent they can be, or at least can be to an extent lost under a poor manager.
Lob
Player Valuation: £50m
Not sure where you plucked that one from mate. Martinez Premier League win percentages were 2013/14 = 55%, 2014/15 = 32% and 2015/16 = 27%.
Lampard is current at 26.4% for his total Premier League wins with Everton since he took over and just 18.75% for this season so far which is absolutely shocking and closer to Mike Walker territory than anyone else.
hktoffee
Birds of a feather flock together
Martinez got 29.33% in his 2nd and 3rd seasons. Stats don’t lie. Frank won 3 in 17 (will lose tomorrow) which will be a shocking 17.6% for this season. About 25.7% from the 35 league games he has had with us.
I can’t believe I say this but getting Martinez 11th is better than relegation. This is sad, our standard of expectation has become so low. Our aim is to stay up I mean what the hack!? I feel like this is the same as the 97/98 season. Give me back the old Moyes time anyday, I miss it.
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UltraVires
Player Valuation: £10m
Anyone else hoping Brentford win tonight as West Ham might decide on a change too?
I think that would be the best solution all around for us to be fair.
I think that would be the best solution all around for us to be fair.
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