2022/23 Frank Lampard

[ArtetaMoney]

Keep seeing the argument 'The board is the issue!' on twitter mostly. And whilst I agree they're a massive issue, a decent board would also come in here and sack Lampard.

There’s more than one issue, unfortunately.

Kenwright - Enough has been said about him.

The rest of the board - What do they actually do, because the club is one of the worst ran in the world.

Thelwell - Seems like he has contacts with relegated teams, or Wolves. The Ings loan bid screamed that he hasn’t got a clue what he’s doing. That’s without the McNeil and Maupay signings to replace Richarlison.

Lampard - His persistence to pick the same players in the same positions, who let him down over and over, means he probably isn’t up to the job. There’s also his game management which is terrible.

All of these need to be replaced or drastically improve (doubtful), before we improve as a club.

 

[Zeitgeist]

Keep seeing the argument 'The board is the issue!' on twitter mostly. And whilst I agree they're a massive issue, a decent board would also come in here and sack Lampard.

It's a valid point

 

[HSWR]

We hired a long term manager in lampard, sold his best player and main source of goals, started the long term plan of resetting the squad and now just 12 months later we are going to sack him based on poor results as a result of the reset and years of poor running of the club which is incredible really. It is concerning if fans think hiring dyche who is a manager who has one relegation and sacked before another is anywhere near an answer for long term progression.

This team is devoid of attacking options, quality and numbers in players and without any funds clearly to be able to address any of that so there is only one result that will come from this. It doesn't matter who the manager is if players play simple balls to the other team leading to goals/chances against us. We don't have a set piece taker in the squad so we have very little in the way of attacking threat if we planned to sit back and be solid. We can't be expansive because of the lack of quality up the pitch with poor shooting, positioning and decision making.

Arteta was demanded to be sacked by the fans not too long ago but the club stuck by him and allowed him to rebuild the squad and here fans would replace lampard with a manager who never improved Burnley , especially when you compare to Moyes who didn't have infinite funds but improved us over time.

 

[HSWR]

There’s more than one issue, unfortunately.

Kenwright - Enough has been said about him.

The rest of the board - What do they actually do, because the club is one of the worst ran in the world.

Thelwell - Seems like he has contacts with relegated teams, or Wolves. The Ings loan bid screamed that he hasn’t got a clue what he’s doing. That’s without the McNeil and Maupay signings to replace Richarlison.

Lampard - His persistence to pick the same players in the same positions, who let him down over and over, means he probably isn’t up to the job. There’s also his game management which is terrible.

All of these need to be replaced or drastically improve (doubtful), before we improve as a club.

I have to ask this as it seems a simple question but who else do you replace the players with seeing as though we have sold a lot of players this season and left us with hardly any personal to bring in and replace the ones who are underperforming.

 

[GrandOldSte117]

It's a valid point

The board is the issue of course. What I'm saying is, a competent board would also have never picked Lampard in the first place, and would sack him now

 

[ArtetaMoney]

I have to ask this as it seems a simple question but who else do you replace the players with seeing as though we have sold a lot of players this season and left us with hardly any personal to bring in and replace the ones who are underperforming.

Have we sold a lot of players? We’ve brought in quite a few, but the squad isn’t much different from last season other than it’s had a brand new midfield and centre of defence added to it. Other than missing Richarlison, there’s an argument to say the rest of the squad is much improved compared to this time last year.

You add a fwd to it who can score and it’s a half decent squad, which I believe a better manager would get more from.

 

[nsno-chris]

Keep seeing the argument 'The board is the issue!' on twitter mostly. And whilst I agree they're a massive issue, a decent board would also come in here and sack Lampard.

The board is an issue for a complete lack of footballing knowledge, lack of business acumen and a lack of understanding of how modern day day togger exists. It’s why we are financially crippled because there’s no accountability for anything at this club.

They’ll have no clue what to do if they sack him, none whatsoever so please don’t kid yourself that they’ll have a plan

Then there is the nutjob owner, who thinks this is playset, that’s he now bored of. From day one he was adamant that “Hollywood manager” was needed

Frank Lampard is the man who has been thrown into an absolute mess of a situation. We sack him, which is justifiable because he’s not getting results (and whilst we have a very very poor team) we should be slightly, and I mean slightly, higher in the league.

The issue is that new man comes in and inherits the same issues.

Until the board go, this club goes nowhere. We’ll change managers every 12 months, and if we somehow survive this year, we’ll be back here within the next year

 

[Zeitgeist]

The board is the issue of course. What I'm saying is, a competent board would also have never picked Lampard in the first place, and would sack him now

I know I agreed with you

 

[edge]

No chance Royle comes back, that's really thinking outside the box, something we don't do as a club lol

Only thing about getting Joe and Dunc back would be the returning heroes, It would deflect the attention of kenwright and co.
Who are rightly getting stick.

 

[dannyboy]

We hired a long term manager in lampard, sold his best player and main source of goals, started the long term plan of resetting the squad and now just 12 months later we are going to sack him based on poor results as a result of the reset and years of poor running of the club which is incredible really. It is concerning if fans think hiring dyche who is a manager who has one relegation and sacked before another is anywhere near an answer for long term progression.

This team is devoid of attacking options, quality and numbers in players and without any funds clearly to be able to address any of that so there is only one result that will come from this. It doesn't matter who the manager is if players play simple balls to the other team leading to goals/chances against us. We don't have a set piece taker in the squad so we have very little in the way of attacking threat if we planned to sit back and be solid. We can't be expansive because of the lack of quality up the pitch with poor shooting, positioning and decision making.

Arteta was demanded to be sacked by the fans not too long ago but the club stuck by him and allowed him to rebuild the squad and here fans would replace lampard with a manager who never improved Burnley , especially when you compare to Moyes who didn't have infinite funds but improved us over time.

I just don't rate Lampard. I don't think he's improved anything in the 12 months he's been here. In fact things are now worse than ever.

Having said that, I'd be happy to give Lampard time if we weren't on the verge of relegation. That's why Arsenal had the luxury of allowing Arteta to carry on. With us, it just looks like Lampard is so far out of depth and if we don't act soon it'll be as good as accepting the drop.

You gave a lot of reasons why Lampard is hard done by but quality managers find a way to get things moving in the right direction. Are we that bad we should be losing to Bournemouth twice in a week and being beaten 4-1 at home by Brighton? I don't think so.

 

[Street end man]

There’s more than one issue, unfortunately.

Kenwright - Enough has been said about him.

The rest of the board - What do they actually do, because the club is one of the worst ran in the world.

Thelwell - Seems like he has contacts with relegated teams, or Wolves. The Ings loan bid screamed that he hasn’t got a clue what he’s doing. That’s without the McNeil and Maupay signings to replace Richarlison.

Lampard - His persistence to pick the same players in the same positions, who let him down over and over, means he probably isn’t up to the job. There’s also his game management which is terrible.

All of these need to be replaced or drastically improve (doubtful), before we improve as a club.

What really get's me about it all, (and I am for keeping Lampard still) is the backroom staff we have, many big name ex pros who were true A listers.

Cole and Baines for instance, world class wing backs, yet we have probably the worst pairing in many years so far.

Lampard a world class attacking midfielder, yet our midfield look pedestrian and stale against anyone we play, it does not stack.

Also with this massive backroom crew and a DOF don't they ever get vocal?

My lowest point in Lampards reign came when he set up for the City with a real purpose, we looked like we had a plan and it worked beautifully.
Then he changed the system for what was on paper a far easier home clash for the next game and a must win 3 pointer.

Didn't anyone speak up and say "why change what did at city", as many of us fans were screaming for him to do.
He needed only one change there, that was a replacement for Onana, nothing else. So weird.

 

[Wat Tyler]

A positive result will certainly not be the worst thing we can do

We need 3 points and currently that game gives us our best chance of trying to get them

We are desperate for points, desperate. But the longer Lampard stays, the greater the chance we go down.

If we win and then lose to WHU, Arsenal and RS, will people be saying, “well you didn’t expect him to get anything against them teams did you, let’s see how we do against Leeds and Villa now”

It just keep rolling over, he is getting away with murder, his stats are diabolical, very close to Mike Walker territory.

 

[Stevie Nicks Bootleg]

I've heard from 2 separate people today that Joe Royle is being lined up with Dunc as his assistant until the end of the season.

Disclaimer; I'm not even close to being in the know.

The 2 people you spoke to won't be in the know either.

No chance Royle comes back, that's really thinking outside the box, something we don't do as a club lol

I couldn't think of anything more embarrassing than getting a manager who looked well out of his time 20 odd years ago when he was getting relegated with Man City.

 

[Alanbileysfeathercut]

Restless sleep for Franco tonight me thinks.

 

[Neiler]

We are desperate for points, desperate. But the longer Lampard stays, the greater the chance we go down.

If we win and then lose to WHU, Arsenal and RS, will people be saying, “well you didn’t expect him to get anything against them teams did you, let’s see how we do against Leeds and Villa now”

It just keep rolling over, he is getting away with murder, his stats are diabolical, very close to Mike Walker territory.

It’s the block of games we’ve just been through that has killed us mate, you aren’t staying up if your getting 2 points from a block of games against Leicester, Bourmouth, Fulham, City, Wolves and Brighton. 2 points from 6 games or a potential 24 points to compete for, you can’t do it in PL football. Throw in both cup defeats and it highlights a trend and that what we are trying to do isn’t working.