2022/23 Frank Lampard

[matty1878]

He's really bought into the Expected Defeats mantra by having his players refuse to attack in such games.

ffs shut up

 

[matty1878]

Any bump in the road no matter how small it's trigger time.

lol innit to half of these beuts

 

[matty1878]

He's played 12 games with a brand new team and lost 4 games to Chelsea, United, Spurs, Newcastle who all out spent, in form, and will finish in the top 7 of the table.

iMO his management starts from this season, not from the Holocaust of last

here here here READ it bedwetters

 

[LocalNative]

Any bump in the road no matter how small it's trigger time.

Let’s face it mate, it’s hardly been a smooth road under Lampard.

If he fails to win at the weekend his win % will be lower than both Walter Smith and Benitez’.

Don’t think it’s unreasonable that some fans are demanding either improved performances/results or a new manager tbh.

 

[kenada_blue]

here here here READ it bedwetters

We knew they'd turn after the Spurs game. Even if we'd got away with a point (we were still in the game) last night, you'd still have the "Palace is must win" "Lampard not good enough" brigade chipping in

We have to win and play well doing so for anyone to change their opinions

 

[Kirkles]

Makes sense

 

[LocalNative]

He's played 12 games with a brand new team and lost 4 games to Chelsea, United, Spurs, Newcastle who all out spent, in form, and will finish in the top 7 of the table.

iMO his management starts from this season, not from the Holocaust of last

Forgot the loss to Villa in there

 

[kenada_blue]

Let’s face it mate, it’s hardly been a smooth road under Lampard.

If he fails to win at the weekend his win % will be lower than both Walter Smith and Benitez’.

Don’t think it’s unreasonable that some fans are demanding either improved performances/results or a new manager tbh.

On the same amount of games?

Again, why are people including last season's results and stats? A complete skip fire of a season where it was all about staying in the league no matter what. That team doesn't exist now.

But if you want to use stats to prove he's not good enough, fine. I see a better, younger, squad with a bigger future, better foundations, than anything we've had in years.

 

[Lanolin]

We knew they'd turn after the Spurs game. Even if we'd got away with a point (we were still in the game) last night, you'd still have the "Palace is must win" "Lampard not good enough" brigade chipping in

We have to win and play well doing so for anyone to change their opinions

I love how you've put 'we have to win' there as if it's some sort of outrageous expectation.

 

[kenada_blue]

Forgot the loss to Villa in there

I didn't forget it, that was a poor loss away from home. If we have more based on teams on our level, then that's when an inquest comes in.

We've lost 3 away from home (Villa, Spurs, Newcastle). 2 at home (Chelsea, United). This bad?

 

[paultheblue]

To a degree yes.

The comparison is more to the 500m we have spent. We have got to let it go a bit really. The biggest chunk of that was spent half a decade ago and the majority of those players have gone.

This is not an expensively assembled team who gratuitously under performing as we saw for periods under the Moshiri reign. It's a team with a modest investment, probably slightly under performing but about where you might expect.

For comparison to Newcastle, their 11 cost more than ours too, by a reasonable distance as well.

So I do think a reality check is required.

I agree totally with this , the 500,000 wasted is no longer relevant the players are mostly gone and the managers in charge when these players were bought have all gone.
The current players were not expensive signings and were bought on a relatively low budget and are not the type of signings that get you in the top four. I am fully behind Lampard still and do believe he has improved us though I do feel some of the limited budget could have been better spent.
Is FFP still relevant to our situation or are we able to spend more realistic fees to improve the team ?
It seems to me that the priority of the club now is solely to make sure the club is in the premier league when BMD opens it's gates.

 

[kenada_blue]

I love how you've put 'we have to win' there as if it's some sort of outrageous expectation.

Expectation is to win every game. But nothing at this point of the season is a must. You just create unnecessary pressure.

 

[LocalNative]

On the same amount of games?

Again, why are people including last season's results and stats? A complete skip fire of a season where it was all about staying in the league no matter what. That team doesn't exist now.

But if you want to use stats to prove he's not good enough, fine. I see a better, younger, squad with a bigger future, better foundations, than anything we've had in years.

Sorry mate don’t understand why we don’t include last season - we did sack Benitez based on his performance and results last season. Lampard shouldn’t get a free pass.

All those things you described have nothing to do with whether or not Lampard stays or goes. Stats decide whether a manager is doing well at the end of the day, to ignore them is foolish.

 

[LocalNative]

I didn't forget it, that was a poor loss away from home. If we have more based on teams on our level, then that's when an inquest comes in.

We've lost 3 away from home (Villa, Spurs, Newcastle). 2 at home (Chelsea, United). This bad?

We’ve won 2 games in 11 this season mate. That good?

 

[NorthernBlue]

lol innit to half of these beuts

You’ll turn to. Only a matter of time