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2022/23 Frank Lampard

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Think if he was to go this week, the next step would be to get a more 'experienced' man in, logically.

That doesn't necessarily mean a 'firefighter' which is what I reckon the likes of Dyche would be pinned as, just someone a bit more pragmatic with years of top flight footy under his belt, preferably amongst the top divisions in Europe.

I would've absolutely loved Galtier here. It's little surprise that he's currently at PSG as he's proven himself to be a very shrewd coach.

He turned us down looking for a bigger club. Eventually got PSG
 
Why waste money sacking Lampard when its goal scorers needed with that money?

Why sack Lampard only to let decision makers who have led to this state of affairs off the hook?
(whilst giving Moshiri and out - 'the fans are making the decisions to sack Lampard')

Because the club isn't skint, it's restricted by financial fair play which I don't think would be impacted by the sacking of a manager - though maybe someone will correct me on that.

I do agree, though. New players is just about more important than a new manager. These idiots are taking an age to do anything with regards to either though.
 

Because we simply have to roll the dice

It's his system that gets the midfield and defenders constantly stretched out of position

He is on his way to having the worst record in Everton's history

He already has the highest loss rate

It can't go on, the squad isn't as bad as the results. It's not working under his stewardship. We can't not sack him because "we can't keep sacking managers"

Results don't lie
But the squad is as bad as the results - without players who score goals, without players who can create goals, without full backs (cept and an aging Seamus) who can attack as well as defend - at PL level.
Can't see any manger getting a turn out of these lads unless they get in new players. The players themselves must know this.
DCL rendered useless etc etc
 
Because the club isn't skint, it's restricted by financial fair play which I don't think would be impacted by the sacking of a manager - though maybe someone will correct me on that.

I do agree, though. New players is just about more important than a new manager. These idiots are taking an age to do anything with regards to either though.

Think it would be. They might be able to argue the point but it will still appear as a loss and we can only be 107 million in the red on a rolling 3 year period.

Even the initial stadium costs counted against us, it was only when it passed a certain stage and could be posted in the infrastructure costs which then didn't count towards the debt.
 
He's a multi millionaire who is objectively terrible at his job. Staying on is greed or ego. He either wants the pay off, which is greed or against cold hard facts can't accept he is poor, ego. It's not complicated
Football managers who have a contract of employment but refuse to voluntarily quit just because the fans don't like them or are not currently getting the results they want isn't egotism or greed, it's just common sense in the real world. You don't get to the top of elite sport/management by being a quitter.

Or are you saying if you were under performing in your job and some people didn't like you or think you were very good at it, you'd happily give up the job you fought to get/want to have and gladly forgo all compensation owed to walk away from whatever company employs you, even if your boss backed you? Somehow I don't think so.
 
Nothing to loose now in sitting it out, the board have firmly put the blame at us the fans. Walking looks bad but sacked from an impossible job not so bad. If Frank is looking after himself and his back room he sits it out, he is perfectly entitled too.
Of course he is entitled to see out his contract, but, he looks a broken man and the longer he clings on to his job the less competent he appears. His unique selling point is that he is a decent likeable young coach with an amount of dignity. Staying here much longer will not enhance that reputation.

What must also be borne in mind is that Moshiri is showing no appetite for paying out compensation to Lampard and his team, which may well mean he stays in charge untill the end of the season and takes us down with, potentially, a record low points tally. What an indictment that would be at a club which has not been relegated in 70 years.
 

When it comes to managers, does it matter if "they know the Premier League"?

Di Zerbi, Loptegui, Cooper, Ten Hag all doing OK and Jones is turning Southampton around, none of these had PL experience before this season.

I remember Ten Hag being a shout for us but it was trodden down because he was the manager of the biggest team in a farmers league, much like Postecoglou, how many would have him now?

David Moyes appointment from Preston saved us from a club that were very much heading for relegation in the near future.

It's becoming a very tactically specific league. The likes of De Zerbi, Emery, Marsch, Lopetegui, Thomas Frank, Ten Hag coming in over the last year or so are very front foot/high energy managers. Cooper and Nathan Jones the same, although still unproven. Then there's Pep/Klopp/Potter/Howe/Rodgers etc who've been there a while.

The whole get a Allardyce/Pulis/Hodgson/Bruce/Dyche to scrap 40 points by playing agricultural football and parking the bus is not where the league is anymore. It's moved on from that. "PL experience" managerially speaking was usually shorthand for appointing one of these types.
 
I like Frank and feels he speaks well. We are only lenient on him because of his charm and his status of an ex footballer. However, this is a results based business. He is not delivering despite not being backed properly. The board needs to decide now.. back him or sack him.
 
The last defeat does seem to have left Frank gasping because he's tried everything: 5 at the back, three in the middle, two wide men etc
and he knows as we know that the team lacks quality, resilience, leadership, a style of play, and goals.

He has bought poorly and the fact that neither Dwight or Maupay featured yesterday says that he, Frank, has made things worse.

Defeat at WHU will be the end and Frank will take the pay-off and move on.

I hope we can get Sean Dyche to take the job.
 

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