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Gareth Barry

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Oviedo is still recovering from injury, Stones and now Alcaraz have injuries (along with Distin having been frozen out for some reason), Lukaku was played through injury (Eto'o wasn't fit initially, Kone has been out long term) as much of a squad as we have - we started out with what seems like barely half of it ready to go. That we managed without Barkley, through Mirallas getting injured (again) and getting some value with Hibbert covering is testament to the side pulling together and doing a job.

We still haven't had our first eleven on the pitch at the same time yet (IIRC) let alone fully fit, match sharp & in form.
Barkley's absence does explain things in part. But he's used Besic way too sparingly. And I dont understand how he can deny some game time to an emerging talent like Browning.

Overall, I see Martinez making enforced changes to the first team. I dont see the principle of rotation at play here.
 
i dont think we have players in those positions good enough to rotate..

We have Eto'o who can replace Lukaku and Besic who can operate as a CB. LB is a problem without Oviedo, yes. But we have people included in our squad that really shouldn't be called squad members if they cant step in. People like Ledson, Garbutt, McAleny, Long...are they not considered? If not, why are they here and not on loan?
 
We have Eto'o who can replace Lukaku and Besic who can operate as a CB. LB is a problem without Oviedo, yes. But we have people included in our saud that really shouldn't be called squad members if they cant step in. People like Ledson, Garbutt, McAleny, Long...are they not considered? If not, why are they here and not on loan?

yeah those 3 deffo should be on loan, maybe he thought he could use them and then as time went on it was decided they werent good enough
 
Lay off the "dumber" and "garbage" jibes
Besic is not a CB. I realise he has played there in lesser leagues but he will never play as a CB for everton. If you cannot see why you're dumber than I thought. Barry is ahead of besic as a CB for everton. Besic will NEVER PLAYER CB for Everton.

you show you lack basic understanding, your knowlege and experience of football begins and ends with the garbage you write in Internet forums.
 

Besic is not a CB. I realise he has played there in lesser leagues but he will never play as a CB for everton. If you cannot see why you're dumber than I thought. Barry is ahead of besic as a CB for everton. Besic will NEVER PLAYER CB for Everton.

you show you lack basic understanding, your knowlege and experience of football begins and ends with the garbage you write in Internet forums.
I would say you are not one to sit on the fence.
 
Direction is important too...


Gibson: 50 forward passes from the 86 he made (45 successful)
McCarthy: 35 forward passes from the 69 he made (27 successful)

So much of the support and the online rank and file were upset to tearful grief when Fernandes decided on Spanish sun. He liked to pass quickly and forwards too. (This is not me suggesting Gibson is Valencia bound).
 
We have Eto'o who can replace Lukaku and Besic who can operate as a CB. LB is a problem without Oviedo, yes. But we have people included in our squad that really shouldn't be called squad members if they cant step in. People like Ledson, Garbutt, McAleny, Long...are they not considered? If not, why are they here and not on loan?

Not sure thats 100% fair, with players going down like flies (with injuries, not like the shame that is Diverpool) Garbutt was a minor knock to Baines away from being the first name on the teamsheet. Ledson is 18. The form of Naismith has been a pleasant surprise in attack. I'd have expected some to be very happy about that last part as it has limited Osman's game time. We don't have City or Chelsea depth - but we have the deepest squad with some quality in it that I can remember in many many years. That Lukaku aside it has been assembled for very conservative fees goes to show where the club has come from and how much progress has been made. Baines fee to Wigan just shades Distins to Portsmouths in the defence.
Barry and Eto'o were frees.
Back to Barry, any further news on his injury? And whats the score on McCarthy because what seemed more of a dead leg than a hamstring effectively put planks of 2 by 4 on his feet instead of boots in the final 5 minutes.
 

Besic is not a CB. I realise he has played there in lesser leagues but he will never play as a CB for everton. If you cannot see why you're dumber than I thought. Barry is ahead of besic as a CB for everton. Besic will NEVER PLAYER CB for Everton.

you show you lack basic understanding, your knowlege and experience of football begins and ends with the garbage you write in Internet forums.
Wow bit harsh. Has someone upset you
 
Barkley's absence does explain things in part. But he's used Besic way too sparingly. And I dont understand how he can deny some game time to an emerging talent like Browning.

Overall, I see Martinez making enforced changes to the first team. I dont see the principle of rotation at play here.
Why are you wanting rotation of the team Dave?

I can understand if they are getting injuries or looking exhausted at the end of matches because we are running them into the ground. But, other than McCarthy, none of the injuries seem to be overload ones. We tired badly in our first two games but since Chelsea that doesn't seem to be the issue, we are often finishing the stronger of the two sides.

Mourinho is regarded as one of the best managers and has players like Terry who aren't kids yet he almost always plays the same team if they are healthy. Isn't a settled team in general meant to help build up understanding among the players?
 
Besic is not a CB. I realise he has played there in lesser leagues but he will never play as a CB for everton. If you cannot see why you're dumber than I thought. Barry is ahead of besic as a CB for everton. Besic will NEVER PLAYER CB for Everton.

you show you lack basic understanding, your knowlege and experience of football begins and ends with the garbage you write in Internet forums.

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Back to Barry, any further news on his injury? And whats the score on McCarthy because what seemed more of a dead leg than a hamstring effectively put planks of 2 by 4 on his feet instead of boots in the final 5 minutes.


Gareth Barry has escaped a broken leg but could have suffered ankle-ligament damage during the 1-1 draw at Sunderland.
The former England midfielder was forced off after just 13 minutes when Jordi Gomez landed his studs on his ankle.
There were fears that Barry had broken his tibia, but boss Roberto Martinez said: ‘I am happy to confirm that it's not the broken leg we were worried about. There is damage to the ankle we must assess.
 
Gareth Barry has escaped a broken leg but could have suffered ankle-ligament damage during the 1-1 draw at Sunderland.
The former England midfielder was forced off after just 13 minutes when Jordi Gomez landed his studs on his ankle.
There were fears that Barry had broken his tibia, but boss Roberto Martinez said: ‘I am happy to confirm that it's not the broken leg we were worried about. There is damage to the ankle we must assess.

Thank Jeebus.
 

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