Sharpattack
Player Valuation: £35m
Delofeu could not hit a cow's arse with a banjo
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Oh wow, nice knowing you mate
Indeed I do think Ozil is a "top player".
Playing for a top team.
He is a "top player" based on his all round play, not on his "assist" stats.
David Beckham was an "assist machine" for a team which contained, during his tenure, the likes of Eric Cantona, Andy Cole, Dwight York, Teddy Sheringham, Ruud Van Nisteltrooy, Christiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney among others.
In short, top class finishers who make the most of the splendid crosses the likes of Beckham can whip in.
How many assists would Del have if he was feeding finishers of that calibre over a sustained period?
Oftentimes the final assist is not even what creates the goal.....it is the very clever, defence splitting pass which makes makes a simple square pass across the goal from the assister for a striker to tap the ball home.
(a good example of this was the goal Kone A scored at the Barcodes season before last.....McGeady made the goal by picking an exquisite pass inside two defenders for Seamus overlapping and he just hit it across to Kone A. Seamus was credited with the assist but Aiden created the goal)
Beckham would have struggled to rack up so many assists if he had been playing in a team with Tony Cascarino or Shola Ameobi leading the line
To sum up, the top assist stats tend to lie with players at the top teams.....and that is because those players, good as they are in their own right, have a much better chance of amassing assist stars because of the tyoe of player they are feeding.
When players from Crystal Palace or Deprtivo La Corunna or Torino are leading the assist stats in their respective leagues then truly that will be a remarkable achievement
whiteshadow
Player Valuation: £25m
Indeed I do think Ozil is a "top player".
Playing for a top team.
He is a "top player" based on his all round play, not on his "assist" stats.
David Beckham was an "assist machine" for a team which contained, during his tenure, the likes of Eric Cantona, Andy Cole, Dwight York, Teddy Sheringham, Ruud Van Nisteltrooy, Christiano Ronaldo and Wayne Rooney among others.
In short, top class finishers who make the most of the splendid crosses the likes of Beckham can whip in.
How many assists would Del have if he was feeding finishers of that calibre over a sustained period?
Oftentimes the final assist is not even what creates the goal.....it is the very clever, defence splitting pass which makes makes a simple square pass across the goal from the assister for a striker to tap the ball home.
(a good example of this was the goal Kone A scored at the Barcodes season before last.....McGeady made the goal by picking an exquisite pass inside two defenders for Seamus overlapping and he just hit it across to Kone A. Seamus was credited with the assist but Aiden created the goal)
Beckham would have struggled to rack up so many assists if he had been playing in a team with Tony Cascarino or Shola Ameobi leading the line
To sum up, the top assist stats tend to lie with players at the top teams.....and that is because those players, good as they are in their own right, have a much better chance of amassing assist stars because of the tyoe of player they are feeding.
When players from Crystal Palace or Deprtivo La Corunna or Torino are leading the assist stats in their respective leagues then truly that will be a remarkable achievement
I agree with you that the quality of player you're playing with does make a big difference and that sometimes the pass before the assist can be the important one. It's always going to be harder for players at smaller clubs to get as many, regardless of how good they are but you do tend to find them getting the most assists for their respective teams.
So although I'd agree it's not a perfect way to gauge quality it does help spot the creative players in teams, even lesser teams.
granter79
Player Valuation: £35m
Great ball but thought the defender could have an effort to slide and block it out.
I agree also Yes and he scored for the Spaish under 21 team at the weekend too very crap that NOT!
Lowste
Player Valuation: £30m
He is still a kid why would he be surplus to requirements
I am at a loss with some fans as they believe if we sign a player one has to leave
To challenge we need a squad and this talented kid will be at the forefront of it all
longers
Parcheggia l'autobus
Seems to be a common thing with our fan base, must be lots of pothead evertonians.
MartyMcFly
Player Valuation: £15m
This is just so fundamentally wrong.I don't think that is as accurate an indicator as you would like to believe,
The proof of their talents lie in their all round ability.
If they never had an assist they would still be among the world's great players.
Messi, Suarez and Neymar were "assisting" each other in the main and a high quality supporting cast when they weren't.
Ronaldo had Big Ben and Bale among others assisting his "assist" stats.
Koke had Griezman.
The stats for an "assister" are only as good as the players he is "assisting" and those five had a heck of an advantage over other "assisters".
Bolasie should have had two assists for us when he came on at Baggies....but the chances he created were wasted
What makes great players is that they deliver and contribute in terms of goals and assists. No one cares how teams play as long as they win and frankly an attacking player who doesn't add either goals or assists is practically worthless.
It's this kind of thinking that saw Lennon and Cleverly play on our wings all the 2nd half of last season.
MartyMcFly
Player Valuation: £15m
I see Gerry is thrashing every one that comes before him at youth levels again. In a very talented team he's their star and that should tell people what a talent we have.
It ain't.
MartyMcFly
Player Valuation: £15m
It really is. It's like the idea that possession wins football matches.
No scoring more goals than the opposition wins football matches.
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