Goats squad analysis thread 2017/18

[Nymzee]

This isnt the chatting wham thread frandel, this is about Everton only.

WHAM AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

 

[Zatara]

A little earlier than normal, with the current season still being active, but I think its around about the time we started looking forward to next season. This thread isnt really for speculation regarding players we should buy, simply a way of looking at how the squad changes from 1 season to the next and to highlight any holes we feel should be filled during the off season.

Manager
Ronald Koeman

GK
Joel Robles
Maarten Stekelenburg

RB
Séamus Coleman
Mason Holgate

LB
Leighton Baines*

CB
Ashley Williams*
Phil Jagielka*
Ramiro Funes Mori
Brendan Galloway
Matthew Pennington*

DM/CM
Morgan Schneiderlin
Muhamed Bešić
Idrissa Gueye
James McCarthy*
Gareth Barry*
Tom Davies

Wingers
Aaron Lennon*
Ademola Lookman
Yannick Bolasie
Kevin Mirallas

ACM
Ross Barkley*

Strikers
Dominic Calvert-Lewin
Romelu Lukaku*

I have excluded young players who havent yet played any serious time in the first team for now, as always, the door is open for them to make a mark in pre-season and just cos I havent named them it doesnt mean they wont feature in the future. I have also excluded all the players currently on loan elsewhere and of course the likes of Kone and Valencia.

The asterisk is the Homegrown players we have in the squad currently, with the amount of speculation involved with a lot of them, the HG player rule might be factor at some point during the window, it also might mean we retain certain players rather than replace. The only player not named that is HG that could feature is Tyias Browning, Mason Holgate isnt classed as HG due to being under 21 and Galloway wasnt named in our squad last year, so im sure he would be HG, anyway, enough waffle regarding the HG player rule.

So, lets take a closer look at the squad, a squad that will be hoping to fight on 4 fronts next season, with this in mind, we will assume the optimal numbers for each position should be as follows :

GKx3
RBx2
LBx2
CBx4
CMx4
ACMx2
Wingersx4
Strikersx3

There is of course leeway regarding younger players and players able to play in different roles within the squad, but I think the above should be the min regarding amount of players.

GK - I personally think we need a new number 1, Robles and The Stek have both played very well at different times during the season, but neither, in my eyes are good enough.

RB- Seamus is going to be out for a long time sadly, Holgate has come in and done a very decent job, but whether Ronny feels he would be better at CB or whether he feels we need another RB only he knows, with the scouse Cafu JJ and the boy CC both looking the part, it remains to be seen how able we are to cope without Seamus for many, many months.

LB- Leighton Baines, he has his haters, but not me, hes clearly NOT the same player he was 6 years ago and age you would think will someday catch up with him, but I love him. With his age in mind and only really Galloway considered as "backup", maybe, you would think its an area that maybe Ronny will be looking at.

CB- Well, where to start here, I like Ashley, but he hasnt been great so far, not as bad as people are making out, but, meh, I dunno, Jags also has been up and down and neither are getting any younger, Mori is an utter donkey and is DEFO not the answer, jury is currently very much out regarding the boy Matty. We need at the very least 2 new CBs in my eyes, you would think maybe 1 or 2 of them would be moved on to "make room". We of course have Holgate, Browning and Galloway here, so numbers wise its not bad, but quality wise, its utterly grim, on the main, its not good.

CM- An area we are thankfully rammed full of utter quality, the 1 complaint I would have is that, young Tom aside, the others I would consider number 6s and theres a lack of REAL number 8s, maybe some movement here with Jamo falling foul of Ronny and possibly Gaz Baz making a move elsewhere to get more game time. Of course the Bosnian Prince will be at full fitness just in time to claim the ballon.

Wingers- Wingers, wingers, wingers, hmmm, Superkev hasnt really had the best of seasons, in and out of the side and hasnt really made a mark sadly, hes showing lots of willing, but the sparkle has gone, sorry Kev, I do still love you, but there you go, Yala is of course still dead and who knows when the boy Lennon will play again, if at all and without kicking a man while hes down, hes not really "the answer". Mola seems to have been shelved for now, but hes got plenty of time to "grow" in time for next season. Personally you would hope Ronny has his eye firmly fixed here for improvement.

ACM- WHAT HAVE WE GOT? But for how much longer, I will try and avoid speculation, but please Ross!!!!! Stay or goes, we have needed some cover in this area for years!! This needs fixing ASAP.

Strikers- Oh Rom, they call you lazy, they wont know what they have till its gone. DCL, I mean, what the hell? Lets see how that pans out. Romigo or Romistay, we need, in my eyes 2 strikers MIN, if Rom goes we need 3.

So anyway, they are my thoughts, feel free to add yours, but the main point of the thread will be to watch how the squad changes during the off season, I will of course update the squad list as and when things change.

@LinekersLegs @Brownie @Connor

GK -- ??? / Robles
RB -- Coleman / Kenny
RCB -- ??? / Holgate
LCB -- ??? / Williams
LB -- Baines / Galloway
DM -- Schneiderlin / ???
CM -- Davies / ???
CM -- Gueye / ???
LW -- Lookman / ???
CF -- ??? / Calvert-Lewin
RW -- ??? / Mirallas


GK -- Pickford
RCB -- Keane
LCB -- No real links
DM/CM -- Klaassen and ANother
LW -- Sandro
CF -- No real links
RW -- No strong links...Deulofeu to return?

Not awe inspiring in the slightest. A lot depends on us bringing Pickford, Keane, Klaassen and Sandro in and then going for 2 worldies.

 

[Zatara]

My feeling is that we can build around a Schneiderlin, Gueye, Davies midfield. So we need to sort the backline and keeper and also bring in some actual wide players who can create. If Rom goes we need a replacement there and backup regardless. To me it looks like a big summer, in the region of 8-10 players is probably needed and a large chunk of them need to be able to come in and perform. Unfortunately the odds of that happening are low for any team and nothing says Everton are going to do well in the market

This talk of wide players, We have Lookman and possibly Sandro for the left....Mirallas and Deulofeu on the right.

I think if Deulofeu goes he will be replaced but otherwise with Bolasie also in the mix its quite top heavy (not even incl lennon!)

I guess it depends if Sandro comes as a forward or a winger....

 

[Nymzee]

GK -- ??? / Robles
RB -- Coleman / Kenny
RCB -- ??? / Holgate
LCB -- ??? / Williams
LB -- Baines / Galloway
DM -- Schneiderlin / ???
CM -- Davies / ???
CM -- Gueye / ???
LW -- Lookman / ???
CF -- ??? / Calvert-Lewin
RW -- ??? / Mirallas


GK -- Pickford
RCB -- Keane
LCB -- No real links
DM/CM -- Klaassen and ANother
LW -- Sandro
CF -- No real links
RW -- No strong links...Deulofeu to return?

Not awe inspiring in the slightest. A lot depends on us bringing Pickford, Keane, Klaassen and Sandro in and then going for 2 worldies.

Why have you removed Barkley and Lukaku?

 

[LABlue2]

Morgs, get the Sandro lad in the squad. Curious where you slot him in.

 

[Zatara]

Why have you removed Barkley and Lukaku?

Whisper it, but theyre unlikely to be here next season

 

[Nymzee]

Whisper it, but theyre unlikely to be here next season

Were they sold and no one told me?

They're still here, still part of the squad, and yet to have been bid on I suspect.

 

[Goat]

Morgs, get the Sandro lad in the squad. Curious where you slot him in.

If he signs he will go up top at first, but I personally suspect Ronny will play him as a wing forward flanking a number 9.

 

[Goat]

Were they sold and no one told me?

They're still here, still part of the squad, and yet to have been bid on I suspect.

I took Lukaku out of my squad, if he stays im happy to slot him back in.

Ross will remain in my squad even if sold.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Christ... a thread with what Goat knows about players, combined with what davek knows about management
This'll go well

If only Damo was here to complete GOT's holy trinity

 

[Charles Hawtrey]

Not sure where Dowell plays yet but he is a bit like McKenzie, bit of a luxury player but someone that sometimes wins games... or sometimes not. I have a feeling if he is introduced too soon he will get hammered by the fans for a couple of anonymous games. There is no doubt he is very gifted but where does all that talent fit. Perhaps he can be schooled into a 10 or a deeper playmaker....growing our own would be worth tens of millions in today's market but is there someone who can teach that stuff out there?

 

[Charles Hawtrey]

Manager
Ronald Koeman - Howard Kendall

GK
Joel Robles - Bobby Mimms
Maarten Stekelenburg-Neville Southall
RB
Séamus Coleman - Gary Stevens
Mason Holgate

LB
Leighton Baines* - Pat Van Den Hauwe
??????? - Neil Pointon

CB
Ashley Williams* - Kevin Ratcliffe
Phil Jagielka* - Derek Mountfield
Ramiro Funes Mori - Alan Harper
Brendan Galloway
Matthew Pennington*

DM/CM
Morgan Schneiderlin
Muhamed Bešić
Idrissa Gueye - Peter Reid
James McCarthy* - Kevin Richardson
Gareth Barry*
Tom Davies- Paul Bracewell

Wingers
Aaron Lennon*
Ademola Lookman
Yannick Bolasie - Trevor Steven
Kevin Mirallas - Kevin Sheedy

ACM
Ross Barkley* - Warren Aspinall

Strikers
Dominic Calvert-Lewin - Graham Sharp
Romelu Lukaku* - Gary Lineker
?????? - Adrian Heath
?????? - Ian Marshall
?????? - Paul Wilkinson

just sayin'........

 

[Hantakun]

Not sure where Dowell plays yet but he is a bit like McKenzie, bit of a luxury player but someone that sometimes wins games... or sometimes not. I have a feeling if he is introduced too soon he will get hammered by the fans for a couple of anonymous games. There is no doubt he is very gifted but where does all that talent fit. Perhaps he can be schooled into a 10 or a deeper playmaker....growing our own would be worth tens of millions in today's market but is there someone who can teach that stuff out there?

Not sure where Dowell plays yet but he is a bit like McKenzie, bit of a luxury player but someone that sometimes wins games... or sometimes not. I have a feeling if he is introduced too soon he will get hammered by the fans for a couple of anonymous games. There is no doubt he is very gifted but where does all that talent fit. Perhaps he can be schooled into a 10 or a deeper playmaker....growing our own would be worth tens of millions in today's market but is there someone who can teach that stuff out there?

 

[vagant59]

If only Damo was here to complete GOT's holy trinity

And Zatara knows about anything

 

[Goat]

Manager
Ronald Koeman

GK
Jordan Pickford*
Joel Robles
Maarten Stekelenburg


RB
Séamus Coleman
Mason Holgate

LB
Leighton Baines*

CB
Ashley Williams*
Phil Jagielka*
Ramiro Funes Mori
Brendan Galloway
Matthew Pennington*

DM/CM
Morgan Schneiderlin
Muhamed Bešić
Idrissa Gueye
James McCarthy*
Gareth Barry*
Tom Davies

Wingers
Aaron Lennon*
Ademola Lookman
Yannick Bolasie
Kevin Mirallas

ACM
Ross Barkley*

Strikers
Dominic Calvert-Lewin
Romelu Lukaku*

It gives me great pleasure to add Jordan to the squad, still lots of work to be done, which appears to be getting done quickly, hoping for more edits in the next week or 2.

Jordan of course is a HG player.