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2018/19 Gylfi Sigurdsson

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Whilst I agree with the concept and it's correct for the ozils and pogbas etc but the likes of hazard and David Silva it doesn't apply to because literally everything good about city and Chelsea to through them 2
Has the majority of our good stuff this season so far not come through Sigurdsson? Even last season at times.
 
Imagine thinking trading that whopper Barkley for Gylfi was a downgrade. Far better player, far better professional, far smarter person.
Has a footballing brain
Can see the whole pitch
As was said he knew where Schmeicel was before he got the ball
Barkley saying he was never coached at Everton , forgetting his manager was the bestest brown shoe wearing coach in the world
 

Ok, so for the people who are now saying I told you so on Sigurdsson because he has finally started to show what people hoped he would when we signed him, the 3 goals he scored in the last 2 games have seen him equal last seasons output and we're in October. A great feat, not going to argue, but also shows how relatively anonymous and inconsistent he was last season.

Not a person in here actually wants him to fail. They just wanted him to do what he should've been doing anyway, getting involved, giving us an edge, being a difference maker. If he's not the type of player to be involved more in games (as some have suggested) then he has to at least offer these type of moments on a regular basis, or he is the definition of a passenger.

If he keeps this type of form up, no one will have a problem with him. It's simple really.

It's fine to play a striker who isn't prolific if he offers the team something else, like the way Marcus Bent used to. He worked his arse off for the team and chased everything, allowing the team as a whole to capitalise, so his lack of goals wasn't an issue. Conversely, Jelavic and the Yak, who scored for for fun, once Moyes insisted they play more like Bent, not only did the goals dry up, but they didn't offer the same type of outlet, so it didn't work.

If Sigurdsson was dictating games and being more involved like the way a Silva or an Ericsson or even a peak Arteta did for us, no one would care if he wasn't scoring. But seen as that isn't his game, the goals and the assists are crucial.

Long may they continue.
 
Ok, so for the people who are now saying I told you so on Sigurdsson because he has finally started to show what people hoped he would when we signed him, the 3 goals he scored in the last 2 games have seen him equal last seasons output and we're in October. A great feat, not going to argue, but also shows how relatively anonymous and inconsistent he was last season.

Not a person in here actually wants him to fail. They just wanted him to do what he should've been doing anyway, getting involved, giving us an edge, being a difference maker. If he's not the type of player to be involved more in games (as some have suggested) then he has to at least offer these type of moments on a regular basis, or he is the definition of a passenger.

If he keeps this type of form up, no one will have a problem with him. It's simple really.

It's fine to play a striker who isn't prolific if he offers the team something else, like the way Marcus Bent used to. He worked his arse off for the team and chased everything, allowing the team as a whole to capitalise, so his lack of goals wasn't an issue. Conversely, Jelavic and the Yak, who scored for for fun, once Moyes insisted they play more like Bent, not only did the goals dry up, but they didn't offer the same type of outlet, so it didn't work.

If Sigurdsson was dictating games and being more involved like the way a Silva or an Ericsson or even a peak Arteta did for us, no one would care if he wasn't scoring. But seen as that isn't his game, the goals and the assists are crucial.

Long may they continue.

Good post mate.

Someone will be along any moment to call you clueless.
 
Ok, so for the people who are now saying I told you so on Sigurdsson because he has finally started to show what people hoped he would when we signed him, the 3 goals he scored in the last 2 games have seen him equal last seasons output and we're in October. A great feat, not going to argue, but also shows how relatively anonymous and inconsistent he was last season.

Not a person in here actually wants him to fail. They just wanted him to do what he should've been doing anyway, getting involved, giving us an edge, being a difference maker. If he's not the type of player to be involved more in games (as some have suggested) then he has to at least offer these type of moments on a regular basis, or he is the definition of a passenger.

If he keeps this type of form up, no one will have a problem with him. It's simple really.

It's fine to play a striker who isn't prolific if he offers the team something else, like the way Marcus Bent used to. He worked his arse off for the team and chased everything, allowing the team as a whole to capitalise, so his lack of goals wasn't an issue. Conversely, Jelavic and the Yak, who scored for for fun, once Moyes insisted they play more like Bent, not only did the goals dry up, but they didn't offer the same type of outlet, so it didn't work.

If Sigurdsson was dictating games and being more involved like the way a Silva or an Ericsson or even a peak Arteta did for us, no one would care if he wasn't scoring. But seen as that isn't his game, the goals and the assists are crucial.

Long may they continue.

You're one of the first posters to get this spot on mate, imo - and I do agree with it. It isn't his game so he needs to be better at what is his game - scoring and creating.

My caveat has always been if you look at Gyfli's performances, even last season, he has always created chances, either for himself or others. Sometimes they've gone in and a lot of times other players have missed big chances (see Walcott v S'ton, for example).

That happens, but it has to be taken into account when people are saying he's 'anonymous'. He could easily have had double the amount of assists last season and should really have 3-4 to his name already this.

When he has the ball in the final third, he makes things happen.
 
If Sigurdsson was dictating games and being more involved like the way a Silva or an Ericsson or even a peak Arteta did for us, no one would care if he wasn't scoring. But seen as that isn't his game, the goals and the assists are crucial.

Long may they continue.

Although this is a reasonable post, just because someone stylistically plays like Silva or Arteta, doesn’t make them a good player. I think there are a lot of strange attitudes from individuals that this type of player HAS to be in our side. Frankly, that person doesn’t exist in a lot of sides because it doesn’t exist within the tactics. And that’s OKAY. Being able to hold the ball as a playmaker is not always a good thing.
 
You're one of the first posters to get this spot on mate, imo - and I do agree with it. It isn't his game so he needs to be better at what is his game - scoring and creating.

My caveat has always been if you look at Gyfli's performances, even last season, he has always created chances, either for himself or others. Sometimes they've gone in and a lot of times other players have missed big chances (see Walcott v S'ton, for example).

That happens, but it has to be taken into account when people are saying he's 'anonymous'. He could easily have had double the amount of assists last season and should really have 3-4 to his name already this.

When he has the ball in the final third, he makes things happen.
To add, our team in general has to finish better. We’ve had a TON of chances early in games this year - West Ham and Arsenal being two - where we should have scored multiple times in the first half. He’s definitely a big part of that. It would also allow Silva to sit back and counter, which is his bread and butter. I don’t know if that’s the lack of a killer CF, generally poor decision making, chemistry, I don’t know. But Siggy needs to be judged on the opportunities he creates for others, not their ability to finish them.

THAT BEING SAID, imagine if it is chemistry and we start clicking? Our D still terrified me, but with replacements on the way and a improvement coming in CM in Gomes, we could be REALLY good.
 

Ok, so for the people who are now saying I told you so on Sigurdsson because he has finally started to show what people hoped he would when we signed him, the 3 goals he scored in the last 2 games have seen him equal last seasons output and we're in October. A great feat, not going to argue, but also shows how relatively anonymous and inconsistent he was last season.

Not a person in here actually wants him to fail. They just wanted him to do what he should've been doing anyway, getting involved, giving us an edge, being a difference maker. If he's not the type of player to be involved more in games (as some have suggested) then he has to at least offer these type of moments on a regular basis, or he is the definition of a passenger.

If he keeps this type of form up, no one will have a problem with him. It's simple really.

It's fine to play a striker who isn't prolific if he offers the team something else, like the way Marcus Bent used to. He worked his arse off for the team and chased everything, allowing the team as a whole to capitalise, so his lack of goals wasn't an issue. Conversely, Jelavic and the Yak, who scored for for fun, once Moyes insisted they play more like Bent, not only did the goals dry up, but they didn't offer the same type of outlet, so it didn't work.

If Sigurdsson was dictating games and being more involved like the way a Silva or an Ericsson or even a peak Arteta did for us, no one would care if he wasn't scoring. But seen as that isn't his game, the goals and the assists are crucial.

Long may they continue.

Such people need to learn their lesson and appreciate mitigating circumstances (of which there were absolutely tons last season!) and understand a player takes more than a fortnight to settle.

The same people also need to learn that players dont become bad players overnight.
 
Has the majority of our good stuff this season so far not come through Sigurdsson? Even last season at times.

not everything like, I reckon gylfi is top notch but I don't think we heavily rely on him like Chelsea do Hazard and city do for silva

richarlison is equally important, so is walcotts pace, maybe Bernard once he plays more
 
Such people need to learn their lesson and appreciate mitigating circumstances (of which there were absolutely tons last season!) and understand a player takes more than a fortnight to settle.

The same people also need to learn that players dont become bad players overnight.

I follow the general rule of thumb to not judging too harshly any player who had to play under those last two managers. An utter mess.

They are being properly judged starting from this season. I wrote them a letter to confirm the commencement of said judging.
 
People are actually arguing that Ramsey's little flick was a better goal than Siggys on Saturday...type of deluded world do we live in
 
Ok, so for the people who are now saying I told you so on Sigurdsson because he has finally started to show what people hoped he would when we signed him, the 3 goals he scored in the last 2 games have seen him equal last seasons output and we're in October. A great feat, not going to argue, but also shows how relatively anonymous and inconsistent he was last season.

Not a person in here actually wants him to fail. They just wanted him to do what he should've been doing anyway, getting involved, giving us an edge, being a difference maker. If he's not the type of player to be involved more in games (as some have suggested) then he has to at least offer these type of moments on a regular basis, or he is the definition of a passenger.

If he keeps this type of form up, no one will have a problem with him. It's simple really.

It's fine to play a striker who isn't prolific if he offers the team something else, like the way Marcus Bent used to. He worked his arse off for the team and chased everything, allowing the team as a whole to capitalise, so his lack of goals wasn't an issue. Conversely, Jelavic and the Yak, who scored for for fun, once Moyes insisted they play more like Bent, not only did the goals dry up, but they didn't offer the same type of outlet, so it didn't work.

If Sigurdsson was dictating games and being more involved like the way a Silva or an Ericsson or even a peak Arteta did for us, no one would care if he wasn't scoring. But seen as that isn't his game, the goals and the assists are crucial.

Long may they continue.

I don’t come on here for balanced views, I want extreme, poorly thought out, polarizing opinion.

So he’s either great and the best player we’ve ever had or he’s terrible and an overpriced waste of money. Which is it?
 

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