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Hilary Benn Sacked From The Shadow Cabinet - wider political debate

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Joey66 said:
The person on LBC was a lady so I think we have crossed wires it is not the person you mention about ISIS some good points in that I agree with ok;)
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Ah fair play mate! I don't know the woman, but Katerji is a fruitcake who thinks history exists are a re-enactment of Russia in 1917.
 
Tubey said:
Yeah mate, I have an agenda...
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You think that not a single person you know in Kirkby will vote labour under Corbyn and that a load of tories who think Corbyn out performed May today are wrong.

If you honestly believe both of those points the you're not in the real world.
 

catcherintherye said:
If you believe that you will believe anything. I will search for the link to post in. It is quite widely known that the CIA were heavily involved in financing the opposition (who refuse to attack ISIS). It is also well known they fund Turkey and Saudi who then arm ISIS.
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Well I do believe it. They've been arguing for some time, and Nusra decided to break off. Not that uncommon with paramilitary groups.

I'm aware that Turkey has helped Isis at times, but that's because they don't want the Kurds to gain enough territory to build a Kurdish state right on their border, as the Kurdish region of Turkey would inevitably try to secede and join it.

I'm not saying I don't believe the CIA would be involved in anything murky as we all know they would, but actual Isis fighters being CIA operatives? I'd need to see something pretty compelling before I believed it.
 
chewee said:
Corbyn won PMQs, trouble is less than 30 mins later his spokesman in post PMQs briefing made some crass remarks regarding Russia / US actions in Syria that will now dominate the news cycle.

Story of his leadership 1 step forward followed back 2 steps backwards.
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That spokesman was not wrong, though.

Half the reason the latest ceasefire failed is because the Yanks "accidentally" killed nearly a hundred Syrian Army personnel. The Saudis have just blown up a funeral in Yemen, killing at least a hundred and forty people, and have previously bombed mosques, hospitals and other civilian targets. Even the airstrikes on IS have on occasion resulted in considerable civilian loss of life. Russia has carried out horrific acts, as has the criminal regime of Assad, but no-one should pretend that the US-led coalition (and especially Saudi Arabia and the Erdogan regime in Turkey) has clean hands in any of this.
 

hullefc said:
Very interesting. Syria was after all deemed part of the 'Beyond the axis of evil' along with Libya and Cuba, put there alongside the 'axis of evil, Iran, Iraq and North Korea.
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Read up on the creation in the 1970's of the Petrodollar, that's where the "axis of evil" name come from.
 

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