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How can EFC shake off fan short-termism?

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Get the right people in from top to bottom.
Look at are board for god sake.
Bill, don't get me started on him.
Denise ,
Sharp.
Really this is the best that a team in the richest league on the planet can come up with?
Everything comes down from them .
Club is a joke and has been for years.
 
edge said:
Get the right people in from top to bottom.
Look at are board for god sake.
Bill, don't get me started on him.
Denise ,
Sharp.
Really this is the best that a team in the richest league on the planet can come up with?
Everything comes down from them .
Club is a joke and has been for years.
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Which is why they need forcing out, screw being labelled a Kopite or a Geordie or a Manc, they’ve all shown what protesting can do, why is it hard for our fans to do the same?
 

We can't. There's a section of our fanbase that will never back a manager and will always screech hysterically for him to be sacked at every turn. Even when we where managed by one of the greatest living managers of the modern era we still had clowns calling him a dinosaur and suggesting that he was clueless about coaching and man management! That was before he left us of course and went on to win the league and champions league double at Real Madrid.......
 
RomanReigns said:
if you employ someone and they are crap - you sack them

frank lampard is crap - enough said

no amount of time in the world is gonna turn it around for him
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But are you sure it’s all these top managers we’re hiring who are the problem, or the approach and expectations of the fanbase?

Is it the fan side of things that needs to come under greater scrutiny to understand how that’s got to the position it has?
 
Legend Barry Horne said:
The club has tried pretty much everything now re managers. We now have turned to a young, up and coming manager in Frank Lampard, who is now being turned on by some after some bad results

Is sacking manager after manager the answer? Or would the ability to weather bad runs, without wielding the axe, ultimately create more stability and result in some success?

Do some fans perhaps need to learn how to be more patient and resilient through bad runs?
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You have bad runs and then there’s almost being relegated and then loitering just above the bottom 3 again with a third of the season gone, how long do we wait until we try and change it? What’s the answer to why we aren’t performing players? manager? Combination? At some point it needs to change unless we leave until we’re relegated and then we will be asking ourselves what if we changed when we had the international break with 6 weeks for a manager to work with the squad or do we wait until January let him sign players then come March we still sack him?
 
It really isn't rocket science.
Just run affairs well from the board room, and put a good manager in place who can get the most out of what he's given on the pitch. This is what all clubs going in the right direction do.
We had a very good thing going with Ancelotti - proof that a great manager can make a huge difference and point us in the right direction. I truely believe that if her were still here then we would be firmly entrenched in the top 6 by now. Look at DCL - Carlo understood how to get the most out of him in ways that Lampard can't even dream of, and he will simply never be the player under Lampard or another mediocre coach than we was under Carlo.
 

Legend Barry Horne said:
But are you sure it’s all these top managers we’re hiring who are the problem, or the approach and expectations of the fanbase?

Is it the fan side of things that needs to come under greater scrutiny to understand how that’s got to the position it has?
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Is not get humiliated twice in a week by Bournemouth too much to ask?
 
Bigduke1234 said:
Is not get humiliated twice in a week by Bournemouth too much to ask?
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So you'd recommend a continuation of the hire and fire approach?

One that Ronald Koeman, Rafael Benitez, Marco Silva and Sam Allardyce have all fallen foul of to date

Maybe we should run an experiment, where the fans remain patient through a bad run, and see what happens? It may pay dividends over time....
 
Blaming fans for being annoyed at that disgusting display is so stupid. The majority of Everton fans are backing Lampard but can you blame those who want him out? We've won three games this season, four if you count our eeked out win over Fleetwood, and we don't look any better than last season. We've conceded 7 goals to Bournemouth and don't look like developing a style of play any time soon. Let's not be more divisive by creating a mentality of those who want change are traitors.
 
evilwebby said:
It really isn't rocket science.
Just run affairs well from the board room, and put a good manager in place who can get the most out of what he's given on the pitch. This is what all clubs going in the right direction do.
We had a very good thing going with Ancelotti - proof that a great manager can make a huge difference and point us in the right direction. I truely believe that if her were still here then we would be firmly entrenched in the top 6 by now. Look at Dominic Calvert-Lewin - Carlo understood how to get the most out of him in ways that Lampard can't even dream of, and he will simply never be the player under Lampard or another mediocre coach than we was under Carlo.
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It was a coup getting Ancelotti in and he did well, even if not quite as well as Allardyce, who wasn't liked, despite his relative success

He's one of the great managers. Aside of getting in another truly great manager, we've been hiring about as well as we could do a tier below that. But there's so little patience

Having good attacking players helps too - which Ancelotti had

The signings of Gray and Townsend last summer were not quite of the quality we've been used in attacking areas and we're still in that position now. It needs rectifying but will require a fair bit of spend I think
 

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