How stupid are Manu?

[Prevenger17]

remember the trainer used to work at Everton called Willie Donachie ? I always thought if he married phil babb then they would be Donachie Babb, probably wouldn't happen though

Not with that attitude.

 

[chicoazul]

That's the key with forums - I never let someone 'get to me'. It's just words on a screen at the end of the day.

I'm actually more confrontational, and more of a condescending knob in real life!

We refer to this qualities on here as "the game" my friend. You seem to have game in you. Don't let the game end you similarly. It can consume a man(c).

 

[Khalekan]

can you not just give me a rough timescale ?

lollollol

 

[ijjysmith]

I refer you all to the second post in this thread:

Like dead stupid.

And then this:

 

[blue4eva77]

I refer you all to the second post in this thread:



And then this:

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Doesn't he play for the Baltimore Ravens. QB isn't he ?

 

[ijjysmith]

Doesn't he play for the Baltimore Ravens. QB isn't he ?

Dunno mate.

 

[FTY]

Doesn't he play for the Baltimore Ravens. QB isn't he ?

Flacco

 

[AndyC]

I refer you all to the second post in this thread:



And then this:

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nearly as funny as the 10,000 Shearer shirts they allegedly had made and then he signed for Blackburn

 

[weaf]

I refer you all to the second post in this thread:



And then this:

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Reminds me of the fake player names old footy games used to have.

I personally think Manchester Red will struggle this season due to all the new arrivals. Especially Flacao and Di Submarina.

 

[Minimeister]

Rooney was more devastating in Euro '04 than Gazza was in '96....and Gazza had a far better team around him.

Wayne is a better player than Gazza ever was.

Rooney in '04 was like man against boys. Had he not got injured we'd of won that tournament.

 

[dholliday]

Man Utd, specifically Ferguson, took every bit of bite, snide, rawness from his game and turned him into a stereotypical Utd 'clean image' footballer.

Hes made a good career for himself and is a good player - but the Rooney we saw break through was just frightening.

He used to have zip, selfishness, raw aggression. He would attempt the unrealistic.

Now I just see him doing what a responsible run of the mill footballer would do - simple passes, selfless.

We should be talking about one of the greats of the game and for me personally, he hasn't done that.

Agree with all that. Much like how Ferguson trained the unpredictably-wild flair out of Giggs in favour of a controlled-disciplined game. Can't argue against the man, as his success with these players and his teams will still be astonished over in 50 years time.

But to the neutral who just wants to see amazing players do fantastic things, Rooney could've been another Ibra, who plays his own game as one of the world's most entertaining players. Or even Maradona, who could come up with other-worldly skills regardless of opponent, or indeed the quality of his own team-mates (this is why Messi can never be judged as on-par with Diego).


Rooney was a genuine one-off in those heady first few months wearing our royal blue. Everytime he got the ball we all would gasp in anticipation as he so often did something extraordinary, even just little skills which bewildered his opponent. That slalom through Utd's defence was a dream.

Felt a bit sick when he left, tbh...I guess we all did.

is he the greatest english player of the last 20 years ?

no.

You have to take into account his poor England performances in the crunch games. It's no good scoring loads in qualifiers & friendlies if you're not gonna help your country out when it matters most. A single tap-in is the only World Cup goal he's scored...10 games or so in all.


Le Tiss was the most naturally-talented English footballer I've ever seen, but it's difficult to rank him as he was the epitome of NEA.

Shearer, Scholes & Beckham were overall superior players to Rooney. Becks is actually underrated because of his über-celebrity, if he was a quiet mouse like Scholes we'd be lauding him a lot more. I'd also rank Lampard & Ashley Cole above Rooney. Rio Ferdinand perhaps on par.

Michael Owen scored as many England goals as Wayne, but failed to adapt his game as he lost pace. Andy Cole is also be a touch below Rooney in the rankings due to not quite breaking through internationally.


Rooney would squeeze into the top 10. If we're talking only strikers, he may be 2nd (behind Shearer).

If we said 25 years he'd be pushed much further back: Gazza's best form was over 20 years ago, as was Linekers. There's also Tony Adams.

Reminds me of the fake player names old footy games used to have.

Roberto Larcos!

Rooney in '04 was like man against boys. Had he not got injured we'd of won that tournament.

Haha...okay mate...love these English statements.

If it wasn't for this piece of bad luck, we'd have won the tournament!

See:

1986: Hand Of God
1990: Waddle skying it
1996: Gazza was this close, I tell ya
1998: if Becks didn't kick out, etc etc
2002: if Seaman could jump, ffs
2004: if Rooney hadn't got injured
2006: if they didn't have Ricardo
2008: erm...if they didn't have Ricardo

2010 was when it finally stopped being a thing, with fans admitting even if Lampard's phantom goal had gone in, German would still have müllered England.

 

[Jim Lahey]

Haha I remember when Giggs was called GREGGS in one of the Pro Evo games!

 

[Toffeelover]

remember the trainer used to work at Everton called Willie Donachie ? I always thought if he married phil babb then they would be Donachie Babb, probably wouldn't happen though


can you not just give me a rough timescale ?

Pat, Shearer, Baines, Scholes, Beckham, they all had more impact in England games than Rooney.

 

[Pat's Van]

Pat, Shearer, Baines, Scholes, Beckham, they all had more impact in England games than Rooney.

may well be the case chum, but are they better players?

 

[Jim Lahey]

Pat, Shearer, Baines, Scholes, Beckham, they all had more impact in England games than Rooney.

Is correct.

Also, what's with the Rooneh love-in around here? Is it just because he was a product of your youth?