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balggy
Player Valuation: £5m
I can answer those questions Dave, you don't need to do it for me.
In Moyes last season, we had the fourth best defence in the league. The actual Premier League Winners Man Utd conceded more goals than us. In his penultimate year we had the third best defence in the league. In 2010/11 we had the 7th best, not great but not too shabby.
Our Defence is now the 15th best in the league. So I think I make a fair point really.
You can make statistics say anything you want. But I don't need statistics, I have eyes.
Very disappointed no one has nominated Steve Evans. Has Leeds firing and would provide a physical presence in the technical area.
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
No, if either @davek, yourself or anyone else start discussing Martinez outside the context of a possible successor, then they'll be banned from this thread.
Mainly for the fume effect tbh
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
It's very poor at the moment, no debate. But the wider point is that people run away with the notion of a Moyes fortress at the back and it's nowhere bear the truth of the matter. It was over the course of his time here pretty much just north of bang average.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Different managers suit different clubs and the degree to which can vary massively. Unless you're taking one of the elite and backing him with an unlimited budget there is no risk free appointment.
That is why it's an easy game just to shout down any name suggested because most managers have a dodgy period at certain clubs where it just didn't work out. Even the likes of Cappelo is at the same time a genius and an utter clown.
Even a manager like Ancelloti has largely been used to just shepherding top players that a football director has given him around and keeping them happy. How would he do on a negative net spend with sole control over all club matters and lesser players? (Probably quite well because he seems a smart guy but even he who looks like a certainty for success could end up having a rough time).
All this being said it is not an excuse to stick long term with underperforming managers.
I also think when the time comes to pick a manager we should be far more ambitious than last time. Watching Southampton take Pochettino then Koeman, Swansea looking at Bielsa, West Ham taking Bilic, Watford Flores, Leicester Ranieri tells me that we could attract almost any name in Europe below the very top circle. This is a far better approach than 'who is cheap and available in the NW of England'
That is why it's an easy game just to shout down any name suggested because most managers have a dodgy period at certain clubs where it just didn't work out. Even the likes of Cappelo is at the same time a genius and an utter clown.
Even a manager like Ancelloti has largely been used to just shepherding top players that a football director has given him around and keeping them happy. How would he do on a negative net spend with sole control over all club matters and lesser players? (Probably quite well because he seems a smart guy but even he who looks like a certainty for success could end up having a rough time).
All this being said it is not an excuse to stick long term with underperforming managers.
I also think when the time comes to pick a manager we should be far more ambitious than last time. Watching Southampton take Pochettino then Koeman, Swansea looking at Bielsa, West Ham taking Bilic, Watford Flores, Leicester Ranieri tells me that we could attract almost any name in Europe below the very top circle. This is a far better approach than 'who is cheap and available in the NW of England'
Woolly Blue
Player Valuation: £80m
... and davek's a faller on page 10 after going down the Martinez / Moyes path.
*sticks hand up in the air*
I have never looked forward to matchdays as much since Gary Lineker was scoring for fun.
Upper Bullens STH, 1970s Street Ender.........credentials, impeccable.
Have Backpost.com drawn up a short list yet?
No, but Sportofact have got a lead on something.
Verbal Kint
Player Valuation: £35m
I love the way the term "the Watford manager" has entered the GOT lexicon
And no.....I wouldn't want him, based on that.
No to the Watford man who won a Europa league with Atletico Madrid.
Yes to the Wigan man who's side entertained the country and won a cup but unfortunately got RELEGATED.
Makes sense I suppose.
Viva the entertainers
Verbal....I think the question posed by the poster was would we want him based on what he had done at Watford this past five months.
And no is still my answer to that.
I'm just sayin' is all
Your a hard cat wooley
Darkhorse
Player Valuation: £500k
The only relevant statistics are that of this years though, not the last two just because they are completed
Brendan Janus
Player Valuation: £40m
Verbal....I think the question posed by the poster was would we want him based on what he had done at Watford this past five months.
And no is still my answer to that.
I'm just sayin' is all
Great name though, Quique Sanchez Flores !!
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