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Jackson dies.
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Azzbot
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I thought you where about to deliver a cracking joke there.
But no, Michael Jackson, the mind of a ten year old (sniggers) couldn't have possibly have killed himself. It was obviously his Doctor, who didn't tell him you can't take 30 painkillers in one day.
Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian
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his death really has no bearing on me whatsoever, i can honestly say i couldnt give a flying one.
i am already sick of him on the telly though and dont wish to hear his songs on 90 % of virgins channels and every radio station, i dont like any of them, never have and highly doubt if i ever will.
i am already sick of him on the telly though and dont wish to hear his songs on 90 % of virgins channels and every radio station, i dont like any of them, never have and highly doubt if i ever will.
Azzbot
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Come on Reidy, you've gotta love the dedication to Michael Jackson on EVERY SINGLE BLOODY MUSIC CHANNEL???????
Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian
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my usual reation is to change channel as soon as i hear him coming on but it's not working at the moment.
i'll give him the credit for the moonwalk but thats as far as it goes, he may have been able to do that but i bet he never did a worm at ruebens and maxims with a cast on his leg.
i'll give him the credit for the moonwalk but thats as far as it goes, he may have been able to do that but i bet he never did a worm at ruebens and maxims with a cast on his leg.
I just thought I'd play devil's advocate here.. Personally I think he was as guilty as hell but... there's always a nagging doubt of a set-up... After all those jockeys weren't convicted for race fixing and we can draw on many miscarriages of justice as evidence that the judiciary isn't perfect - whether in convicting or acquiting a defendant.
Of Innocence and Guilt
Sex?
Truths: Famous people (in particular) are often assumed guilty before being proven innocent in a court of law. The prerequisite in a criminal case is guilty beyond reasonable doubt and in the famous cases referred to already the defence lawyers were able to introduce sufficient doubt (and be sufficiently skilled to do so) in order to convince a jury of their client's innocence. Notwithstanding that there will always be a proportion of the whispering minions who won't believe the verdict - and in many of these cases this belief has justification. The mere fact that people are found innocent in a court of law means ONLY that they are not proven to have committed the said crime. They were not convicted - end of. We all know of many miscarriages of justice and we have to accept that we cannot label these individuals as guilty of the crime but it won't stop many of us from believing this to be the case - for the reasons indicated above (in earlier replies).
In any event a civil conviction was achieved against OJ with the lower prerequisite of "on the balance of probabilities". This means simply that we are entitled to assume that, "on the balance of probabilities" he was guilty of murder. In the case of Michael Jackson I believe that the weight of evidence allows us to believe a similar level of guilt - but sadly, not beyond reasonable doubt.
The testimony given in the sworn affidavit was pretty damning but, whilst there was a lot of smoke (in this and other accusations) no conviction was achieved. You might, reasonably, ask why Jackson paid an inordinate amount of money to avoid this matter coming to court. This is indeed a reasonable question but has to be tempered, to some extent, by the possibility that a famous, and at that time, extremely wealthy, person might have been the victim of a sting - even a deliberate plot to introduce the youngster to him on the very strong possibility that one thing might lead to another.. that is to say "if we can get him friendly enough with the boy - sufficient for him to be in the same bed with him - we can perhaps take this to the max". Pretty sick but also a feasible opportunistic scenario given his strange behaviour patterns viz a viz children and the previous whispers.
Lies?
People are not slow to seek advantage and lie in order to achieve what they seek - usually money.
and Videotape?
So where was the unimpeachable evidence!?
Of Innocence and Guilt
Sex?
Truths: Famous people (in particular) are often assumed guilty before being proven innocent in a court of law. The prerequisite in a criminal case is guilty beyond reasonable doubt and in the famous cases referred to already the defence lawyers were able to introduce sufficient doubt (and be sufficiently skilled to do so) in order to convince a jury of their client's innocence. Notwithstanding that there will always be a proportion of the whispering minions who won't believe the verdict - and in many of these cases this belief has justification. The mere fact that people are found innocent in a court of law means ONLY that they are not proven to have committed the said crime. They were not convicted - end of. We all know of many miscarriages of justice and we have to accept that we cannot label these individuals as guilty of the crime but it won't stop many of us from believing this to be the case - for the reasons indicated above (in earlier replies).
In any event a civil conviction was achieved against OJ with the lower prerequisite of "on the balance of probabilities". This means simply that we are entitled to assume that, "on the balance of probabilities" he was guilty of murder. In the case of Michael Jackson I believe that the weight of evidence allows us to believe a similar level of guilt - but sadly, not beyond reasonable doubt.
The testimony given in the sworn affidavit was pretty damning but, whilst there was a lot of smoke (in this and other accusations) no conviction was achieved. You might, reasonably, ask why Jackson paid an inordinate amount of money to avoid this matter coming to court. This is indeed a reasonable question but has to be tempered, to some extent, by the possibility that a famous, and at that time, extremely wealthy, person might have been the victim of a sting - even a deliberate plot to introduce the youngster to him on the very strong possibility that one thing might lead to another.. that is to say "if we can get him friendly enough with the boy - sufficient for him to be in the same bed with him - we can perhaps take this to the max". Pretty sick but also a feasible opportunistic scenario given his strange behaviour patterns viz a viz children and the previous whispers.
Lies?
People are not slow to seek advantage and lie in order to achieve what they seek - usually money.
and Videotape?
So where was the unimpeachable evidence!?
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linglong
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Must admit i'm sick of the bleeding hearts on here..omg its like having the thought police in charge if they had thier way..lock up the jacko haters..
As for MJ,while he had a talent,it burned out a long time ago those shows would have been a farce becuase people would have expected the jacko of 25 years ago,not a very ill man as he was.
As for the kiddy fiddling..well the american justice system is [Poor language removed] at best and as OJ proved money can buy you freedom,one accusation of molestation could be perhaps excused (the money grabbing that goes on oveer there,and indeed here now) but to continually having these accusations and indeed admitting he had kids in his bed then i'm sorry he was sick,but just never brought to justice.
But now the feakshow is finally over and i suppose when the dust settles on all of this the real truth will emerge of his life.
As for MJ,while he had a talent,it burned out a long time ago those shows would have been a farce becuase people would have expected the jacko of 25 years ago,not a very ill man as he was.
As for the kiddy fiddling..well the american justice system is [Poor language removed] at best and as OJ proved money can buy you freedom,one accusation of molestation could be perhaps excused (the money grabbing that goes on oveer there,and indeed here now) but to continually having these accusations and indeed admitting he had kids in his bed then i'm sorry he was sick,but just never brought to justice.
But now the feakshow is finally over and i suppose when the dust settles on all of this the real truth will emerge of his life.
fozzy
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same place as the 18m!!! ffs defo last post!
AdamTheGreatOneB
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Haha! Are you sure?
Let's face it, some people like his music, some people don't. Some people think he was guilty, some people don't. Two things are for certain though, he was a legend in the music business but also the most controversial.
Screech
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Anyone online that kept saying the settlement wasn't the action of an innocent man?
*ahem*
Jordan Chandler admits he lied about Michael Jackson Awkward Thoughts
*ahem*
Jordan Chandler admits he lied about Michael Jackson Awkward Thoughts
Screech, Wordpress is a blog platform. That means anyone can create a website there and write anything they want on it, you included. (That goes for any website, of course, but with a blog you don't have to have any technical knowledge).
It's got about the same value as me writing "Michael Jackson was an alien" on these forums - even Wikipedia, vulnerable to goatish pranks as it is, has some minimal degree of editorial control.
It's got about the same value as me writing "Michael Jackson was an alien" on these forums - even Wikipedia, vulnerable to goatish pranks as it is, has some minimal degree of editorial control.
Nebbiolo
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Oh ffs, I edited 1 thing cos nebolid forced me to do it.
Nebbiolo
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You're a persistent vandal, lad. You know it, I know it, the forum knows it, Wikipedia knows it, and so do the police.
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