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James McCarthy

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Lanolin said:
You know that 'for a fact'? How exactly?

Very very very rare that a club like United would go as far as to actually lodge a bid for a player without doing a bit of work in the media to smooth the path first (as we know from experience with Baines, Fellaini and Rooney) so seems odd that this wasn't reported at the time.

I don't believe for a second that spurs were interested in him. They didn't sign anyone else for that position which would be a bit odd if they were willing to pay £20m for him. Think that was simply talk from his agent because he wanted a new contract.
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see my below post mate. I'm not trying to get into an argument (we had enough of them and you were proved right about Bobby :P) but I know that United had that bid knocked back (2 years ago now like).

Well, Spurs didn't sign anybody because Poch instead tried Dier there? Plus they had about 8 centre mids. They were interested though, but never as seriously as united were
 
BlueToff said:
see my below post mate. I'm not trying to get into an argument (we had enough of them and you were proved right about Bobby :p) but I know that United had that bid knocked back (2 years ago now like).

Well, Spurs didn't sign anybody because Poch instead tried Dier there? Plus they had about 8 centre mids. They were interested though, but never as seriously as united were
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I don't doubt for a second you were told that mate, but being told 2 years later by someone who once worked for Goal and 442 is hardly knowing it 'for a fact' is it? I mean, we're not talking Woodward and Bernstein levels here.

Yeah the fact that Pochettino used Dier there is kind of what I was alluding to. It's very rare that a manager would be willing to fork out £20m on a player, and then say 'ah well, nevermind i'll do without'. Chairmen don't tend to be willing to pay £20m on a player to play in a position the manager isn't 100% convinced he needs to fill, and as McCarthy himself has said Spurs weren't willing to stump up £12m for him in 2013, it seems unlikely they would pay more 2 years later after he'd suffered repeated injuries over the previous 12 months.

Obviously I don't know for sure, but there's very little evidence that he's been a man in demand. If you take a look at his comments in this article: http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...s-pleased-with-manchester-united-9634474.html

He sounds like he would be very open to a move to United (the sort of comments that would get him castigated were he Belgian rather than Scottish, but that's a different argument) but he signed a new contract with us when such teams were supposedly interested in him. Seems unlikely to me.
 
Lanolin said:
I don't doubt for a second you were told that mate, but being told 2 years later by someone who once worked for Goal and 442 is hardly knowing it 'for a fact' is it? I mean, we're not talking Woodward and Bernstein levels here.

Yeah the fact that Pochettino used Dier there is kind of what I was alluding to. It's very rare that a manager would be willing to fork out £20m on a player, and then say 'ah well, nevermind i'll do without'. Chairmen don't tend to be willing to pay £20m on a player to play in a position the manager isn't 100% convinced he needs to fill, and as McCarthy himself has said Spurs weren't willing to stump up £12m for him in 2013, it seems unlikely they would pay more 2 years later after he'd suffered repeated injuries over the previous 12 months.

Obviously I don't know for sure, but there's very little evidence that he's been a man in demand. If you take a look at his comments in this article: http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...s-pleased-with-manchester-united-9634474.html

He sounds like he would be very open to a move to United (the sort of comments that would get him castigated were he Belgian rather than Scottish, but that's a different argument) but he signed a new contract with us when such teams were supposedly interested in him. Seems unlikely to me.
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Spurs were interested. I never said at what price, I don't know, they didn't make a bid but there was a lot of talk about it last year. And no we're not talking Woodward etc. The lad I know has got very good contacts at United though as he's been based in Manchester all his career (still is) and was pretty much the United correspondent for his time with those companies I mentioned. He knows his stuff - or at least whoever he contacts does.

From what he said there was a £20mil bid knocked back by Everton summer 2014. Didn't even want to open negotiations and it was a non-starter. That's as far as it went. So there was definite interest, but not enough for Utd to offer more - then again Everton supposedly just said 'there is no deal, he's not for sale'

Do I think he's worth £20mil now? No I don't.

But if he can get anywhere close to the level of performance from his first season (and, let's be honest, there's been much worse performers this season than McCarthy) then he's a hell of a player to have as the driving force in midfield.

Key will be keeping injury free as well I suppose, and perhaps being a bit braver in possession as when he gets in forward areas he can be effective.
 

We'veGotTonyHibbert! said:
http://www.benchwarmers.ie/football...es-mccarthy-does-nothing-argues-dunphy/60218/

McCarthy does nothing? Thoughts Blues? Watched him today and bar a few tackles he seemed more of a liability and not of much use going forward or defending
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"But McCarthy, I watched him all season at Everton. He got his manager sacked. The guy does nothing."

“He’s strolling around the pitch like a traffic cop, pointing here and there, doing nothing himself.”

Ouch
 
Layne said:
"But McCarthy, I watched him all season at Everton. He got his manager sacked. The guy does nothing."

“He’s strolling around the pitch like a traffic cop, pointing here and there, doing nothing himself.”

Ouch
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good point by Brady "if we had a Roy Keane in there today, we wouldn't have been beaten".


erm you weren't beaten.
 

We'veGotTonyHibbert! said:
Yeah but tbh he wasnt even average today, he might as well have sat on the sideline and watched the match would've saved him all the running. That season for us he wasnt all that either.
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He covered a lot of ground and denied sweden space. He isn't ever goin to dictate a game he's not that type of player. He's been made a total scapegoat when last season every player bar barry consistentEly were way off what they should be. I'd judge him on next season rather then last season. His first season here he was a crucial player for us
 

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