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Confirmed Signing James Tarkowski

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I understand it, but I don't really agree with it (massively inflating wages simply because a player is out of contract). Something in me tells me that Tosun isn't going to waltz into a new club on increased wages. (this part is a joke as we know he was released as not needed and his stock has declined greatly.)
Never heard of supply and demand?
 
Why are you making up nonsense percentages to try and validate your point ?
A solid premier league CB with no recent injury problems joining a club at 29 and having three good seasons where he doesn’t deteriorate is not a 2% probability ?
Every thread I read at the moment is full of you arguing with multiple people with a completely contrarian take. The more I see you post the more I think you have to be on a wind up or just not understand football at all. Even Zat, the biggest supporter of bringing in youth, wants this signing!
Zat wants it because he thinks it will magic Godfrey into heading a ball clear or something
 
Madrid's recruitment has taken a noticeably younger swing in recent years. Honestly look where they send their big bucks. Hazard is a major outlier and also the worst failure. Not all the way a coincidence.

I just don't really believe there is room for us to create a European quality team by adding older guys who are on frees. The ones who are good enough usually find homes that show they're good enough. We get the remaining crap.
We are worlds away from a European quality team and hamstrung financially. We’ve just narrowly avoided relegation, the remit for next season is to avoid relegation, but more comfortably.

Signing a reliable premier league quality defender for free is sensible business and helps towards our goal for next season.
 
If that’s the argument then why not sign some lower league defenders? The vastly lower wages will more than offset the transfer fee.
If i had faith in our board to get it right, then I'd agree. Moyes used to find gems from the lower leagues, it's possible. Tarkowski has proven he can do it throughout the leagues and in the premier league as well and comes with no transfer fee so is a good option.
 
He's played 6 straight seasons in the PL. Why are you acting like Burnley is in Moldova?
Yeah, and he has done well, even lasts Epson when they got relegated, they conceded significantly less than us.

I'm not acting as if its in Moldova, but I'm not being stupid thinking there's loads of better options available to us who won't command a transfer fee that we can't afford.

If he gets a 3 year deal for us, I can't see the problem. We don't know whats been offered to him.
 

If i had faith in our board to get it right, then I'd agree. Moyes used to find gems from the lower leagues, it's possible. Tarkowski has proven he can do it throughout the leagues and in the premier league as well and comes with no transfer fee so is a good option.
To be fair that’s the risk I’d rather us take over once more falling for the “proven PL experience” trick or thinking that a free transfer will end up being cheap.
 
As long as the contract isn't too long I'm fine with it. Need to get some stability and get back to solid midtable first before making that next leap.
 
It goes back to what is most likely to happen.

Let's say you've got four options:

He's awful from the jump and completely useless.

He's decent but never cements a consistent place either through form or injury.

He's a solid starter for between a year and two and then starts to fade.

He's solid for the whole length of his contract and a majority wants him renewed (I can't just say is renewed while it looks like we're giving Kenny a new deal).

I'd put the percentages at 2%, 48%, 48%, 2%. Relatively low risk, almost no real chance for any type of reward. For me those aren't signings we really need to be looking to make at the moment. We aren't going to go forward making those and do we really want to hold where we are?

What if Tarkowski had a ponytail, would that improve his percentages?
 
To be fair that’s the risk I’d rather us take over once more falling for the “proven PL experience” trick or thinking that a free transfer will end up being cheap.
I understand that. For me, if it was a 3 year deal, I think its a good option. Lampard wanted him at Chelsea so will have done his homework on him and whether he will fit the system he wants to play.

We will be hoping for mid table obscurity next season, to steady the club and allow time to build a real team. Tarkowski is a means to an end to work through that transition.
 

It goes back to what is most likely to happen.

Let's say you've got four options:

He's awful from the jump and completely useless.

He's decent but never cements a consistent place either through form or injury.

He's a solid starter for between a year and two and then starts to fade.

He's solid for the whole length of his contract and a majority wants him renewed (I can't just say is renewed while it looks like we're giving Kenny a new deal).

I'd put the percentages at 2%, 48%, 48%, 2%. Relatively low risk, almost no real chance for any type of reward. For me those aren't signings we really need to be looking to make at the moment. We aren't going to go forward making those and do we really want to hold where we are?
I have a 78.8% feeling that made up percentages mean nothing.

You act like he has been injured repeatedly, he hasn't. You also have zero idea whether we have offered 3 years or 5 years etc yet you act like we are giving him a lifetime contract.

If you think we are just going to attract all the best players on a shoestring budget when we have just survived relegation 4 days before the season finished, you don't know football. We aren't aiming for Europe next season. We have to work accordingly.
 
It goes back to what is most likely to happen.

Let's say you've got four options:

He's awful from the jump and completely useless.

He's decent but never cements a consistent place either through form or injury.

He's a solid starter for between a year and two and then starts to fade.

He's solid for the whole length of his contract and a majority wants him renewed (I can't just say is renewed while it looks like we're giving Kenny a new deal).

I'd put the percentages at 2%, 48%, 48%, 2%. Relatively low risk, almost no real chance for any type of reward. For me those aren't signings we really need to be looking to make at the moment. We aren't going to go forward making those and do we really want to hold where we are?


84.7% of all statistics are completely made up. 56.3% of all people know that.
 
The only player in the squad born between Godfrey and Gordon is Mykolenko. We're going to have basically no players entering their primes years in the next few seasons if we don't sign them. Meanwhile a fair few figure to hit that downslope. We need to add on the upslope side.
Davies?

We also have numerous who are literally 25, while Godfrey is 24. Richie, dcl, Holgate, Gray. Alli and iwobi are 26.

Patterson is 20, branthwaite is 19.

Footballers supposedly peak at 27-29. So we have lots still to peak.

Stop making out like our squad are all 40 years old.
 
I have a 78.8% feeling that made up percentages mean nothing.

You act like he has been injured repeatedly, he hasn't. You also have zero idea whether we have offered 3 years or 5 years etc yet you act like we are giving him a lifetime contract.

If you think we are just going to attract all the best players on a shoestring budget when we have just survived relegation 4 days before the season finished, you don't know football. We aren't aiming for Europe next season. We have to work accordingly.
He does know football, he watches you tube clips and reads the stats sites. It's the new way don't ya know? No need to watch loads of games to be an expert, allegedly.
 

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