Evans was always a good player. Martinez overlooked both him and VVD in favor of Mori. Madness.because he'd go the same way as keane. Both were decided not good enough for united, then after a couple of good years at crap clubs who are set up to defend with a good base, media start thinking they'd be good enough for the top teams, when it seems fairly obvious to me they're not. He just doesn't have the personality, like keane, to succeed at the very top imo.