January 2018 transfer window thread.

[CRIMHEAD]

For a knock down fee though mate would add what we sorely lack, a player who can beat people and is direct, he's fast - but never a player who struck me as reliant on pure pace over his technical ability.

anything in the 10-15m range would be worth the gamble IMO

Is he more worth the gamble than Lookman? With Martina still there, is he going to want to play defense most of the time? None of this matters unless we get a real LB.

I also say that a dynamo in midfield is more necessary. If we also get a pacey left back that likes staying wide Sigurdsson in the inside forward spot is plenty effective with the back providing width.

I'll make an exception for N'Zonzi, but getting older player to play wide is usually not a good idea. Gaitan will also have minimal resale value. I'd pass even at 18M.

 

[bol-uk]

So no rumours...this is boring!

Yep, I have decided I don't like the tranny window, as an Evertonian, it is a crap time.

 

[COYBL25]

Have there been any more solid links or is it just guessing right now?

I'll be kind and go for " speculating " over " guessing ".

How does that sound ?

 

[bluestevon]

..agree. There’s no doubt he’s a player, I was just pointing out his age. As you say, much would depend on the deal. I saw £18m quoted.

Niasse goes out for 13m, Gaitan in for 18m, I'd say that was a fair swap really mate, get 3 1/2 seasons out of him most likely and the difference having say him ahead of a left back like Shaw say would make to the balance and overall play of the team would be insane.

If you got even 70% of the player he was at Benfica for those 3 seasons then you'd have some player there.

On a side note, players like Lookman and Vlasc etc - IF they are to ever develop to the level we hope, simply need better players 'of that type' around them to learn off, right now they are having players like Lennon, Mirallas, Bolasie to look up to, none of whom have ever been that good really

 

[Brisan123]

Dedoncker is good on FM.

So was Klassen

 

[Stephenlloyd]

Playing Gylfi 10 doesn't solve the issue that we have nobody to get on the ball behind him and dictate the play, though.

That’s why I also said we need a new midfield

 

[IrishToffee37]

Can't understand the lack of a left back, any reason there's not been one linked? Chilwell looked good for leceister the few times I've seen him

 

[bluestevon]

Is he more worth the gamble than Lookman? With Martina still there, is he going to want to play defense most of the time? None of this matters unless we get a real LB.

I also say that a dynamo in midfield is more necessary. If we also get a pacey left back that likes staying wide Sigurdsson in the inside forward spot is plenty effective with the back providing width.

I'll make an exception for N'Zonzi, but getting older player to play wide is usually not a good idea. Gaitan will also have minimal resale value. I'd pass even at 18M.

Well goes without saying that we need more than anything a left back mate, I still think it'll be Shaw - think Mourinho has played him to boost his value and soon as United bring one in this window then he's out the door.

as for Gaitan, just always really liked the lad, yeah likelihood is you'd only get 2 - maybe - 3 good seasons out of him before losing his pace became a factor, as for Lookman, honestly don't see him as being ready for a starting role 'just' yet, so it's why i'd favour bringing in someone who isn't 25/26 who will provide a block to him until his mid 20's but rather a shorter term experienced and still VERY good player - who hopefully he can learn off as Lookman is still very raw in many ways.

 

[bluestevon]

Is he more worth the gamble than Lookman? With Martina still there, is he going to want to play defense most of the time? None of this matters unless we get a real LB.

I also say that a dynamo in midfield is more necessary. If we also get a pacey left back that likes staying wide Sigurdsson in the inside forward spot is plenty effective with the back providing width.

I'll make an exception for N'Zonzi, but getting older player to play wide is usually not a good idea. Gaitan will also have minimal resale value. I'd pass even at 18M.

How'd you feel if we did a deal which saw Sandro going the other way for a similar amount - given Athletico had an interest last summer in him?

 

[blue to the bone]

Had no idea about iheanacho’s lack of effort. Shame. Brilliant goals to minutes ratio and a great first touch.

Has he scored for Leicester?

 

[orly]

“I feel like the squad is getting much bigger. It actually feels like we have a few new signings – even though we have only made one.

On Bolasie and McCarthy.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[ijjysmith]

Has he scored for Leicester?

One I believe.

It's a ludicrous shout for him though. It really is. They bought him for what. £25m or something, we'd probably have to pay more for him, which is insane of course, and most of all....he's just not very good.

 

[sharkey1001]

We need a new first-team left back and one of Garbutt or Galloway brought in and registered in the squad. That will mean we will have Baines, the new lb and one of the above so that the chances of Cuco the clown ever playing again are very remote.

We also need to get rid of Niasse and bring in another striker. We only have one in Tosun, and no-one know if he will be any good.

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

On Bolasie and McCarthy.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Its like the good old days

"They're like new signings"....


3 weeks later, break down again... or less in McCarthy's case.

 

[catcherintherye]

Well goes without saying that we need more than anything a left back mate, I still think it'll be Shaw - think Mourinho has played him to boost his value and soon as United bring one in this window then he's out the door.

as for Gaitan, just always really liked the lad, yeah likelihood is you'd only get 2 - maybe - 3 good seasons out of him before losing his pace became a factor, as for Lookman, honestly don't see him as being ready for a starting role 'just' yet, so it's why i'd favour bringing in someone who isn't 25/26 who will provide a block to him until his mid 20's but rather a shorter term experienced and still VERY good player - who hopefully he can learn off as Lookman is still very raw in many ways.

There is often significant value to be had taking lads who are a bit older too. Look at Mirallas, if he was 24 there's no way Olympiakos could get him for a (decent) loan fee. I see Gaitan and Turan as similar for us really.

The other thing is is that Allardyce has proven very adept at taking lads with a similar profile to Gaitan and Turan at Bolton. He can clearly get a tune out of lads who may have fallen out of love with game a little.

They are a short term fix. As a whole I'm not in favour of short termism at all. You can kind of see from the Derby once Liverpool have developed a broader plan they have moved away from us. However under Allardyce it's where we are currently and better players can also help support the younger ones. I think Kenny looks an even better player with Bolasie in front of him for example. We will see.