2023/24 Jarrad Branthwaite

[TheBigIguana]

You can run a loss and be below the threshold and be PSR compliant, but we all know this.

None of that explains the financial need to sell Branthwaite, our cash flow position has/will improve significantly with the obvious equity required for the business to be supplied, some of which as we know is already invested, meeting a big chunk of the remaining LOR liability and reducing debt, thats a start.

Players will be sold but likely on the basis of risk and discretion, Onana and DCL shaped low hanging fruit. We’ve already cleared 30 -40 million in sales and costs, player trading so far, before the above two.

Even as I doubt we are at risk of not being compliant in 24/25, we can sell Branthwaite in 11 months, after he’s played 38 games and another season here if we needed to, but by that stage we could be looking forward to playing at the Toyota Stadium - with a whole year under new ownership.

The assertion it’s necessary to sell financial reasons, just isn’t true, helpful sure, necessary, no.

It’s a narrative in need of correcting.

Does cash flow matter? We’re talking about regulations built around accounting profit.

I mean there’s another side to this too where we still have a thin squad and could use the reinvestment. I know it’s going to get people MAD but we can sell Branthwaite and be better off with smart signings.

 

[Toffeepot]

You do realise PSV's most expensive player is €15m.

No I did not. Doesn't change the fact VN tried to buy him on the cheap

 

[Swartzy]

People seem to think now that Danny F is in the hot seat things are different and they might be, when he actually enters the hot seat, till then.

As well as the near £200m debt to 777, Everton owe Cheshire-based lender Rights and Media Funding (RMF) £225m ($287m) and another £158m ($202m) to MSP. RMF's debt is secured against the club's assets, while MSP's collateral is club subsidiary that owns Everton's new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock.

Everton has paid about £30m in interest charges to an opaque lender associated with a tax exile, corporate records suggest.

The charges appear to have reached about £438,000 a week, according to the troubled Premier League club’s most recent set of accounts, a figure more than three times the reported wages of the Everton and England goalkeeper Jordan Pickford.

I think the Debt's will be the first thing looked at by 'Friedkin'. You'd expect A Businessman like him would already have planned for that, knowing what he's getting himself into. He won't let any players leave for under value, unless it's players just congesting the wage bill. Naming rights on the new stadium and telling Utd to do one over Branthwaite, There's other players we can sell on.

Like I said, he already knows what he's taking on with this club, and finding himself in the Championship after the first Season wont be in his plans...

He's not in the hot seat yet, but he will know what's going on and have his say. Or Mosh will lose another Buyer..

 

[Curtis]

I thought there would be a lot of scathing mockery of the pompous tightwads of man united, instead I just walked into an economics class that is the written word equivalent to nyquil

 

[Peter The Dog]

seems standard practice for manu to make ridiculously low bids early on to unsettle players. hopefully we can hold out for our asking price like dortmund did with sancho. kilman to wham for 45m is the benchmark.

 

[Bob Elstone]

Kilman - that was unbelievable fee for dross.

 

[Aries]

You can run a loss and be below the threshold and be PSR compliant, but we all know this.

None of that explains the financial need to sell Branthwaite, our cash flow position has/will improve significantly with the obvious equity required for the business to be supplied, some of which as we know is already invested, meeting a big chunk of the remaining LOR liability and reducing debt, thats a start.

Players will be sold but likely on the basis of risk and discretion, Onana and DCL shaped low hanging fruit. We’ve already cleared 30 -40 million in sales and costs, player trading so far, before the above two.

Even as I doubt we are at risk of not being compliant in 24/25, we can sell Branthwaite in 11 months, after he’s played 38 games and another season here if we needed to, but by that stage we could be looking forward to playing at the Toyota Stadium - with a whole year under new ownership.

The assertion it’s necessary to sell financial reasons, just isn’t true, helpful sure, necessary, no.

It’s a narrative in need of correcting.

It does really. There’s clearly players we want that we simply can’t afford. Think it’s safe to say by now with the links from reliable people, that we have more than a passing interest in Philogene. The line from Bobble is we “won’t get drawn in to a bidding war with Ipswich”. I think the more obvious reason is we simply can’t afford to rather than taking the moral stance on it.

There are strong links also with Jake O’Brien with even reports of bids being made by us over the weekend. You have to wonder if the club have been told that they won’t be giving up and will eventually get near to our valuation so we’re now making back up plans..

As much as we all rate Branthwaite and we all know exactly how good this boy is, would getting a 70 million offer be the worst thing in the world for us? Jake O’Brien also looks a talented centre half, he could be signed as a direct replacement for a fraction of that money. It would then arm us with the cash to properly compete for Philogene or Asprilla (or another winger with a similar profile), and still have enough for a down payment for a right back or central midfielder. As disappointing as losing yet another talented young player would be, you’d have to think the squad would and SHOULD, be stronger overall with his departure.

 

[Deulofeumygod]

70m is still too cheap for me.

He will be werld classss one day.

 

[barneygumble]

For our sake, I hope this doesn't rumble on all summer.

Last thing we need is to be scrambling round last minute for a replacement.

Tell them It's £70m and if you're not prepared to meet it, he's not for sale. I'd be giving them a deadline to it.

 

[Sean Ashley]

People keep saying his value only increases, I could list a hundred players where that wasnt the case, of course people could name a hundred that did.

But in 2018 Dele Alli was rated as the highest value player in the entire world.

A year later Spurs couldnt give him away. (This is hyperbole, not meant to be take literally, please)

Your right there is periods where money seems to be in the game. COVID had its impact too.

There are players who reach a value and we want to sell like Gordon, because you don't know if he is going to worth the same the next transfer window.

But Branthwaite is different he oozes class. One of them players you know is destined for the top. Everton should do everything to keep him.

Wonder if we are in contract negotiations with Branthwaite as a way to finally kill the rumours. Has anyone heard anything?

 

[kimonthemac_efc]

That plastic burning tory toad Ratcliffe has just sacked 250 staff, he can raise his funds from that

He really turned out to be a rude and a generally unlikable person. Makes me hate man utd even more

 

[billyblue80]

It does really. There’s clearly players we want that we simply can’t afford. Think it’s safe to say by now with the links from reliable people, that we have more than a passing interest in Philogene. The line from Bobble is we “won’t get drawn in to a bidding war with Ipswich”. I think the more obvious reason is we simply can’t afford to rather than taking the moral stance on it.

There are strong links also with Jake O’Brien with even reports of bids being made by us over the weekend. You have to wonder if the club have been told that they won’t be giving up and will eventually get near to our valuation so we’re now making back up plans..

As much as we all rate Branthwaite and we all know exactly how good this boy is, would getting a 70 million offer be the worst thing in the world for us? Jake O’Brien also looks a talented centre half, he could be signed as a direct replacement for a fraction of that money. It would then arm us with the cash to properly compete for Philogene or Asprilla (or another winger with a similar profile), and still have enough for a down payment for a right back or central midfielder. As disappointing as losing yet another talented young player would be, you’d have to think the squad would and SHOULD, be stronger overall with his departure.

You make some good points especially on our need to reinforce across the team and everyone has a price too. Just not convinced United will go to 70m which should be our benchmark, no negotiations until they hit at least that mark. The lad will only be worth more as long as he stays fit and we also have Onana and likely DCL who can be sold alongside others like Maupay, Keane, Holgate etc.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

He really turned out to be a rude and a generally unlikable person. Makes me hate man utd even more

Hope someone bounces an egg off his barnet at GP.

 

[Nymzee]

We can run a loss all we like once we’re PSR compliant mate, regardless that doesn’t create a need to sell Branthwaite now financially.

This squad needs improving and to improve it we need to spend money and to stay compliant after spending money we need to sell people.

 

[billyblue80]

United fans are very weird on the one hand they are insistent he isn't worth the asking price because he isn't in the England squad and has played one full PL season, on the other they desperately want him. They both want our player and to talk him down and not rate him and not pay his worth for some strange social media brag, they want their cake and to eat it? Very weird bunch.