John Stones Is A Rolls Royce But…

[Deleted member 28206]

THE BRAKES.

JESUS WEPT. FIX THE TITLE.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

There's not one club in the country who wouldn't want to see John Stones do that in their shirt.

There's a few things you can get frustrated with Stones over from time to time but composure and keeping the ball really isn't one of them.

 

[groggsie]

So move him to defensive mid. drop Barry bring Jags on in behind.

Hooray that!

Been saying this the last 18 months... would be Viera esque in midfield

 

[graeme2911]

Tbf, I bet Harry Catterick would have kneecapped Labone if he'd tried that showboating.

Possibly. But he was playing with a lead like ball on a boggy pitch no doubt. I'm not a fan of comparing players across the eras - far too many variances to be able to draw a reasonable conclusion.

 

[davek]

Yeah, let's work on those things though. People are effectively dissecting a 21 year old for successfully controlling possession.

...but we can all point to games this season where he's not controlled the situation and its been costly.

It's understandable after the defensive calamities of recent weeks that the crowd got jumpy over that stunt. If we had a two goal cushion: not a problem. But the situation was tense and fraught with danger.

I think there's a lot of people confusing stylish football here with brainless football. Anything near your own 6 yard box (or turning toward it...twice) is verboten. No matter who you are.

I just think that Stones has misjudged the moment he was in badly and this is the result.

 

[Toffeelover]

By doing what he did, instead of booting the ball out for a throw, (Spurs ball), or relying on Howard to do similar, (Spurs ball, probably), or trying to bounce it off Spurs player and conceding a corner, (Spurs goal most likely), he drew a foul.

Everton ball. 1 1.

Problem?

Not with me.

 

[Toffeelover]

I have wondered if really is he a CB, should perhaps he be moved more forward?

 

[Dithering Dougie]

I have wondered if really is he a CB, should perhaps he be moved more forward?

No he's a defender he's just a bit green given his age.

 

[davek]

I have wondered if really is he a CB, should perhaps he be moved more forward?

I said the same thing when he first broke into the team. I haven't changed my mind.

I doubt he'll acquire the full game of a CB, which requires a lot more physical presence in the box than Stones can/will give.

 

[blueboy1664]

thats the park end for you mate

I sit in the Park end , people were screaming at howard for not giving stones an option to release the ball when coming at him... the shouts i heard including mine is that the keeper never gave stones any option than to play the ball the way he did OR kick it right across the box

 

[The Equaliser]

Spot on article that.

Trying to play it out from within his own penalty area is fine.

Trying to play it out from inside the 6 yard box should only happen if he is taking the ball away from goal. The problem yesterday was that he was taking the ball towards the goal again which is defensive madness. Any decent forward will think he is taking the p and catch him out eventually.

 

[Goat]

I sit in the Park end , people were screaming at howard for not giving stones an option to release the ball when coming at him... the shouts i heard including mine is that the keeper never gave stones any option than to play the ball the way he did OR kick it right across the box

He had 3 options, give it to Howard, give it to Besic or take the piss.

 

[Chang Elephant]

He had 3 options, give it to Howard, give it to Besic or take the piss.

The give it to Howard option though ??

 

[Toffeelover]

I would like to see RM take a chance bring Jags back in and try Stones in front of the back four perhaps work it in by virtue of subbing.

 

[Goat]

The give it to Howard option though ??

Well yeah, suppose thats option 4, just volley the ball into the goal, cut out the middle man.