John Stones Is A Rolls Royce But…

[Happy Nick]

Stones biggest fault is being drawn out of position when strikers drop deep. He should be passing them on to one of the two defensive midfielders. That is where his arrogance lets him down. That is where we have ended up conceeding needlessly. Can anyone tell me 3 occasions where he has been caught out dribbling past players in his own area that has led to goals? If you can than that would be 3 goals in 3 seasons!

 

[Goat]

Your post identifies a symptom, you should be addressing the cause; which is, the patterns of play that has everybody frothing at the mouth is set by ??

Are you suggesting I commit mass murder?

 

[Tubey]

He wouldn't be allowed to piss about like that for Barcelona or Real Madrid or Bayern Munich in a game on a knife's edge...and he's not allowed to do it in an Everton shirt either.

I agree with this. On that occasion, he did it without it being necessary or beneficial.

The large part of his game is quickly changing pace, knocking it past an attacker and freeing himself up to give a forward pass. That's fine, and although it won't always work, it's a critical part of how we play and I don't want that knocked out of him.

However, showboating six yards from goal for no reason when a hoof would have done (or a pass to two players in space in fact)... that's unnecessary for me, and he deserved the stick he got.

 

[Kurt.]

i'd let him walk on his hands and dribble with his head... this boy is special.... but not in an @Elong way

 

[The Equaliser]

Stones is boss. Yea he overplayed it slightly, but he has the ability to get out of it and this has been the biggest, most ridiculous over reaction you'll see. Let the lad play.

No-one is saying isn't boss.

No-on is saying he shouldn't be allowed to play.

We're debating the issue of whether what he did yesterday was a step too far on a football forum. The "biggest, most ridiculous over reaction" is people suggesting we should not even discuss this.

Fans discussing the performance of one of their team's players in a game not 24 hours ago. Imagine that. Disgraceful. Beats the bitchfest in the Martinez thread any day.

 

[WarringtonBlue]

Stones' dribbling (generally) doesn't worry me. It's just that he's a bit poo at aerial balls and so far no one in the media seem to have noticed. Giroud always seems to completely get away from him at set pieces especially.

 

[Kurt.]

Stones' dribbling (generally) doesn't worry me. It's just that he's a bit poo at aerial balls and so far no one in the media seem to have noticed. Giroud always seems to completely get away from him at set pieces especially.

only when we play arsenal ive noticed

 

[WarringtonBlue]

only when we play arsenal ive noticed

Very good.

The man has scored 3 headers in the last 3 games against us!

 

[pablo 1878]

I honestly hope he just volleys every single ball he gets near for the next 6 months and then leaves.

Most people dont deserve such an amazingly talented player.

Yes cos there is only volleying every single ball he gets near for the next 6 months or p!ssing about with the ball in his own 6-yard box. There is no inbetween

What John will learn is that there is a time and a place to be extravagant and for taking risks. There is no doubting his ability but that was definitely not the time or place. And before people pipe up that John Stones is the second coming, if he'd have stumbled and gave Spuds a late winner, would he have still made the "calm down" gesture to the Park End?

 

[Kurt.]

Yes cos there is only volleying every single ball he gets near for the next 6 months or p!ssing about with the ball in his own 6-yard box. There is no inbetween

What John will learn is that there is a time and a place to be extravagant and for taking risks. There is no doubting his ability but that was definitely not the time or place. And before people pipe up that John Stones is the second coming, if he'd have stumbled and gave Spuds a late winner, would he have still made the "calm down" gesture to the Park End?

but he never..... so john says pipe rar down

 

[Elong]

Ridiculous over reaction. Good luck at a bigger club with a better class of fans John.

 

[pablo 1878]

but he never..... so john says pipe rar down

Bless, that's nearly word for word how Chico put it in the other thread

 

[Kurt.]

Bless, that's nearly word for word how Chico put it in the other thread

I wouldn't know son... I've got that bellwhiff on ignore since ages

 

[WA Toffee]

...but we can all point to games this season where he's not controlled the situation and its been costly.

It's understandable after the defensive calamities of recent weeks that the crowd got jumpy over that stunt. If we had a two goal cushion: not a problem. But the situation was tense and fraught with danger.

I think there's a lot of people confusing stylish football here with brainless football. Anything near your own 6 yard box (or turning toward it...twice) is verboten. No matter who you are.

I just think that Stones has misjudged the moment he was in badly and this is the result.

I think he judged it perfectly. He kept the ball and we got a free kick. Surely that is a better result than giving it to a Spurs defender on the halfway line who can just put it straight back into our box?

 

[Ihaters]

He's spent a whole season doing crazy stuff like this and its ace.. We didn't even concede from it, he's saved us from and started attacks that lead to so many goals doing this stuff, that even if he does do one wrong, he is well up in credit.

In this case, he didn't even do one wrong, and is that good that he had to be fouled before he gave up the ball.

He can do a Cruyff turn, Fellaini 360, Ronaldo quadrouple step over on the goal line in front of Messi in a CL final for all I care, if he a.. gets away with it and b.. gets away with it and c.. gets away with it.