Such a load of crick.
It was only halfway through reading it I noticed was affiliated in some way to that Chelsea "weaintgotnohistory" or whatever the heck it is called site.
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Such a load of crick.
It was only halfway through reading it I noticed was affiliated in some way to that Chelsea "weaintgotnohistory" or whatever the heck it is called site.
Stones absolutely cannot be sold now.
So much so, I'd close the thread.
WW3 if he goes...
So much so, I'd close the thread.
WW3 if he goes...
Looking at it again, I don't even think it is a journo....it is a blogger.
Mind you, the regular journos are no better these days.
Julius Geezer
Player Valuation: £2.5m
Wow....some bitter and vitriolic responses there , ha ha , some level headed replies but not many !
evertoniano
Player Valuation: £1.5m
This. You can't buy hundreds of kids and really develop them unless they all play regularly. Some promising kids will choose to go to "lesser clubs" because they will have more chance to emerge with an increased possibility of playing time.
Garrick
Awesome, lid.
You're already seeing a microcosm of this with MLS, although it's more artificial due to funky league rules.
Lots of parity, increasing piles of money at the expense of other (Caribbean and Central American in MLS's case) leagues. Although, due to how the pot is spread, they're also not very good at continental play, even though I'd be willing to wager a bottom half MLS side could smash a bottom half Liga MX side.
Although, MLS becoming an international destination is also making Caribbean and Central American national teams increasingly more competitive. I don't think Costa Rica at the World Cup or Jamaica and Panama in the Gold Cup are flukes, this may be the new norm.
Bringing it back to the Prem and its effect on global footie, just take a look at Belgium or Netherlands. Their domestic leagues are crappier than ever, but their national teams are also quite ace at the moment.
Which is fine. I'd much rather have an exciting Premier League than care all that much about European play.
BoysInBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
I utterly despise so many media pundits off the back of this whole saga.
So much crap being chatted it is unreal.
You know what it also reminds me of? When we got all that stick for loaning players in 2013/14. People crying it was unfair, that we were cheating, that we should know our rightful place, all that jazz.
You watch. 6 months/12 months from now, one or more of the media's favourites will have a wantaway player on their hands, and will they get criticised for trying to keep hold of the player? Will they [Poor language removed].
The absolute best thing we can all do right now is give John Stones so much support and love that it sticks in the throat of all the parasites and Sky plebs who demand we sell him.
The utter journalistic scum like that Charlie Wyett, trying to portray all of our support as a baying hate mob, and trying to make out that Stones needs to leave Everton because he's lost the fans support, they need to be shown up for good.
So much crap being chatted it is unreal.
You know what it also reminds me of? When we got all that stick for loaning players in 2013/14. People crying it was unfair, that we were cheating, that we should know our rightful place, all that jazz.
You watch. 6 months/12 months from now, one or more of the media's favourites will have a wantaway player on their hands, and will they get criticised for trying to keep hold of the player? Will they [Poor language removed].
The absolute best thing we can all do right now is give John Stones so much support and love that it sticks in the throat of all the parasites and Sky plebs who demand we sell him.
The utter journalistic scum like that Charlie Wyett, trying to portray all of our support as a baying hate mob, and trying to make out that Stones needs to leave Everton because he's lost the fans support, they need to be shown up for good.
just look at this post from that thread. This is from a CHELSEA fan:
[Poor language removed] martinez and everton, stupid [Poor language removed] doesn't understand the simple concept of the football food chain, we are near the top, they are near the middle... we poach players from the middle of this totem pole, they poach players from the low end of this totem pole... martinez is just a deluded fool who doesn't understand his team's place in the hierarchy, all the things he's been complaining about i.e poaching players from smaller teams, bidding for players while the season has already started, openly pursuing targets... he does but to teams even lower down the chain
In any case, hopefully they get [Poor language removed] and never receive an offer like that for him again and he is eventually sold for much less...
deipnosophist
Player Valuation: £80m
lol lol bitter much?
evertoniano
Player Valuation: £1.5m
To be honest and it was a thought that had already crossed my mind, and there was a comment on that Chelsea forum that might be worth taking into consideration.
If we play hardball with these youngsters and refuse to let them move onto what they may consider a "better" club ( and please don't lets get involved in, we are a big club etc please) how would that affect us recruiting youngsters, would it be perceived as a limiting factor and reduce the possibility of having long term contracts accepted?
If we play hardball with these youngsters and refuse to let them move onto what they may consider a "better" club ( and please don't lets get involved in, we are a big club etc please) how would that affect us recruiting youngsters, would it be perceived as a limiting factor and reduce the possibility of having long term contracts accepted?
Just read a few pages of their replies the scruffy little whoppers.
The trouble is that you have that darned FFP bumbling around meaning you can't use more than £4million pa from that extra TV money to increase wages
The market has a terrible habit of doing the exact opposite of what some would think.
For me the big clubs will plough on regardless and as their commercial income grows so will their buying power and influence . I can't help but feel the real winners in all this will be owners for they will be able to hide behind FFP and at the same time many will be looking to take dividends
I hope there is another Revoloution in Russia and the tainted rubie supply is switched off.
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
It's an interesting thought but it's not going to happen for the following reasons:
(i) the increase in broadcasting revenues widens the disparity in payments made to clubs, for example the gap between 1st and 10th in order of broadcasting revenue grows from £22 million last year to £35 million next year.
(ii) the wealthier clubs already have the infrastructure, stadia and long term commercial deals which clubs like Everton are frankly unlikely ever to enjoy (without the biggest of all sugar daddies buying our club)
(iii) FFP will not allow the clubs with smaller revenues to compete on salaries (let alone transfer fees)
If it was a rising tide that floated all boats equally then it's plausible, but this tide floats the wealthier clubs higher than the less wealthy.
The Esk
Player Valuation: £70m
I think this is a very accurate view of the future, particularly the last point - there will come a point soon where the wealthiest clubs will have finished their capital projects (infra-structure, stadiums, etc), paid down any outstanding debt and will generate significant cash for their owners.
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