TheFinnFan
Finners
i wouldnt wonder if they wouldnt. youll never know if they want to see were the possible biddin war reaches to
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mythbuster
Player Valuation: £35m
Nonsense. We've said all we've had to say. Pretty sure Chelsea have our fax number and we can't possibly stop them from sending another formal bid.
TheFinnFan
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EddyKent
Player Valuation: £8m
The football club holds all the cards. The club rejected a bid but didn't specify they wouldn't reject all bids. They will have to play Mourinho's game and not bottle it.
Stanley Parker
Player Valuation: £15m
That Wigan game; Moyes 0 Martinez 1
EddyKent
Player Valuation: £8m
Mourinho has clearly said Everton can say "no the player is not for sale." Martinez and the club rejected the bid however they didn't say they would reject any other bids.
Michaelcoyb
Transfer Window Time Keeper
Could you though? I want to see if this place is still sane.
BoysInBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
It's all semantics. Martinez has said the player is 'not for sale'. The words 'not for sale' usually mean just that.
Just because Martinez hasn't said 'at any price' doesn't mean the player is really for sale.
You could apply this logic to just about any team - Utd can say Rooney is 'not for sale', but if Real Madrid came in tomorrow with a £100m bid for him, he'd probably be sold.
mythbuster
Player Valuation: £35m
What are we meant to do? Write them a letter? We said no, end of story. Let's just wait and see what we say to the next bid, yeah.....?
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
Absolutely nonsense.
If Chelsea came back with £50m he'd be sold, as that's football. Every player has a price. What clubs or managers say post an initial bid means nothing in reality,,as money always talks.
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Big Fat Sam
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Every player has his price and every player should be sold for that price, end of!
Unless we're winning every single game and have the XI best players in the world, until then we have to trade and find a way to improve.
Whether that's by finding lower-priced gems such as Arteta, Cahill, Lescott, Stones, Jagielka (funnily enough all Moyes' purchases) or by selling for way over value and using that money to bridge other areas of the squad that need improving - it must be done.
Right now we're the 11th best team in the league, which shows we have a LOT of improving to do.
Martinez cannot be trusted to get the majority of his 'small' buys right as Moyes could. Yes he got McCarthy, yes he got Lukaku, but they are the big money deals where most people knew they'd be good transfers. But he also made far more awful transfers and refused to get rid of the players, allowing them to be a huge drain on resources. Those tranfers that looked like a gamble at the time have, pretty much without exception, not paid off.
IF Chelsea come back with 30/35m, and IF that money goes to the manager then he should and will go. We'll end up a better team for it, as it allows Martinez to buy players who'll be less of a risk and more proven.
We could get a second good striker, a class centre back and a top quality number 10, and furthermore push players such as Kone, Naismith, McGeady further away from the starting line up.
Unless we're winning every single game and have the XI best players in the world, until then we have to trade and find a way to improve.
Whether that's by finding lower-priced gems such as Arteta, Cahill, Lescott, Stones, Jagielka (funnily enough all Moyes' purchases) or by selling for way over value and using that money to bridge other areas of the squad that need improving - it must be done.
Right now we're the 11th best team in the league, which shows we have a LOT of improving to do.
Martinez cannot be trusted to get the majority of his 'small' buys right as Moyes could. Yes he got McCarthy, yes he got Lukaku, but they are the big money deals where most people knew they'd be good transfers. But he also made far more awful transfers and refused to get rid of the players, allowing them to be a huge drain on resources. Those tranfers that looked like a gamble at the time have, pretty much without exception, not paid off.
IF Chelsea come back with 30/35m, and IF that money goes to the manager then he should and will go. We'll end up a better team for it, as it allows Martinez to buy players who'll be less of a risk and more proven.
We could get a second good striker, a class centre back and a top quality number 10, and furthermore push players such as Kone, Naismith, McGeady further away from the starting line up.
EddyKent
Player Valuation: £8m
I think some of you lads misinterpreted what I said.
Every player has his price, I wasn't shying away from that fact. Merely pointing out that when Mourinho plays these games then the club has to respond in kind. If the club is serious about keeping the player in question, then they should categorically say, player A is not for sale for any price. Case closed. It's out of the club's hands obviously if the player want's out and requests a transfer.
mythbuster
Player Valuation: £35m
It's just not a smart move to do that mate. I can tell you know, categorically (and I'm gonna exaggerate greatly,) that if the Manchester Arabs offered Barca £10 Billion for Messi, and then offered Leo £2 million per week, then he'd be a citeh player quicker than you can say Ma Kent
TheFinnFan
Finners
No offence again mate but what was wrong in that poll question?
Anything over £30m he'll be gone - so expect him gone and the mega fume can commence when he's replaced with an overpriced Johnny Evans.
Bottom line is presently we just can't compete - unless there is major change here we are doomed to aimlessly spiral down the food chain picking up Europa league crumbs and the occasional 'plucky' displays that shake the footballing applecart.
Bottom line is presently we just can't compete - unless there is major change here we are doomed to aimlessly spiral down the food chain picking up Europa league crumbs and the occasional 'plucky' displays that shake the footballing applecart.
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