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John Stones

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Rubbish though he was last night, I don't believe for a second that he subbed himself cos he was upset. They say he was ill. I believe that.

NEA if we sell him though.
 
He is a young player who is learning the game and has at times, had his shortcomings exposed this season but it is all a learning curve.

Now if someone comes in waving 35-40m at us for him do i think we should take it ? Yes I do.

We are in some serious need of depth especially at the back and if we could replace him with 2 or 3 i think it could be better in the long term.
 
Stones will be quality. He has been near perfect for two years and at his first blip of form and people turn on him.

He is still a kid learning his craft. Currently, playing in a team that can't defend for toffee. It's not the individual, it's the system.

People slagged off Distin last season, but on reflection was he right about questioning the methods at the club? People questioned his professionalism, a man who is the oldest outfield player in the premiership and the physique of a god with a penis made in the depths of hell to punish naughty people.
 

Moomin said:
Stones will be quality. He has been near perfect for two years and at his first blip of form and people turn on him.

He is still a kid learning his craft. Currently, playing in a team that can't defend for toffee. It's not the individual, it's the system.

People slagged off Distin last season, but on reflection was he right about questioning the methods at the club? People questioned his professionalism, a man who is the oldest outfield player in the premiership and the physique of a god with a penis made in the depths of hell to punish naughty people.
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All of this is correct

The john stones part and the part about distins length
 
Moomin said:
Stones will be quality. He has been near perfect for two years and at his first blip of form and people turn on him.

He is still a kid learning his craft. Currently, playing in a team that can't defend for toffee. It's not the individual, it's the system.

People slagged off Distin last season, but on reflection was he right about questioning the methods at the club? People questioned his professionalism, a man who is the oldest outfield player in the premiership and the physique of a god with a penis made in the depths of hell to punish naughty people.
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What's the point in keeping him here when he wants to go?

Why not sack him off and bring in players who want to play for the shirt?
 

dannyboy said:
Or get a manager who could sort his game out and develop the potential?

The mistakes he makes can be cut from his game with the right coaching. I genuinely feel sorry for the lad, he's been thrown to the dogs all season. A young, inexperienced centre half partnered for the majority of the games by someone from Argentina who is still adapting.
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Perhaps its just me but i thought he looked good up until new year -ish.

As you say, playing next to mori whose adapting isnt ideal and also with mccarthy and coleman having poor seasons hes been surrounded by poor performances.

I think its all part of his learning curve as alot of young players have a run of bad games when theyre developing.

People saying they would sell him. Would they also want mourinho as manager as clearly rates him.
 
Big_nev said:
He's been badly mishandled by Martinez I'm afraid. What other talented young centre backs in European football are asked to go against their natural instincts and try and play their way out of trouble despite the odds not being in their favour? Obviously I will never happen but Stones needs some time with somebody like Simeone, a manager who knows how to get the most out of his defenders.

Not saying he's good enough for that calibre of club right now but he badly needs a mentor. The last thing you want is a youngster already under pressure and out of form being asked to play it around when under pressure.
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Marquinhos
Varane
Laporte

To answer your question.Gimenez and Tah are the only two highly rated young centre backs who defend rather than look to pass the ball out...if that makes sense.

Stones needa an organizational leader next to him.
 
He and Rom have so much potential. Barkley and Del too, but not as much as these two.
But he'll never reach as good as he can be under a manager who doesn't train for set pieces and can't organise a defense in general.
 

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