The ESK reckons we will be £600 million in debts soon if we don't get sold soon ....?
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Same here mate the problems all seem to just melt in to oneSuspect that was more related to COVID losses and PSR but my memory during lockdowns is hazy lol
If Russia footing the bill for rebuilding Ukrainian infrastructure and damages is part of the settlement, then the sanctions will be lifted as fast as you can say western bidder for construction contracts. Then it will be sports washing time with us in prime position now Chelsea has been lost from Russian influence.If there is a Peace it will have to be a lasting meaningful peace and not a hasty 'peace any cost' leaves a bad taste peace
But that said there's also no such thing as a bad Peace and the sooner the better.
It won't be a case of peace on Monday - Sanctions lifted on Tuesday, It never happens that way - it will be years down the track as an oh by the way thing
Plus £600M, 700M, 800M or more for the stadiumThe ESK reckons we will be £600 million in debts soon if we don't get sold soon ....?
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Coincidentally I'm in rehearsals for a performance of Cinderella, where I'm playing Grimella, one of the ugly sisters.
It won't be a case of peace on Monday - Sanctions lifted on Tuesday, It never happens that way - it will be years down the track as an oh by the way thing
I agree with the poster that said we can’t be pining our hopes on the outcome of a foreign war. However, I don’t think the removal of sanctions will be a ‘down the track, oh by the way thing’.
The sanctions currently make it impossible for any Russian individual or company to do business with the West, so I think the sanctions will be a key point in negotiating peace. They will be an important part of the peace negotiations, and won’t be an afterthought.
Maybe certain individuals will remain sanctioned, maybe not, but the blanket ban on business with Russian entities will come to a swift end imo.
No doubt there will and probably is The day after Peace breaks out unofficial business going on But if only 1 Oligarch remains de-sanctioned - we all know which one it will beI agree with the poster that said we can’t be pining our hopes on the outcome of a foreign war. However, I don’t think the removal of sanctions will be a ‘down the track, oh by the way thing’.
The sanctions currently make it impossible for any Russian individual or company to do business with the West, so I think the sanctions will be a key point in negotiating peace. They will be an important part of the peace negotiations, and won’t be an afterthought.
Maybe certain individuals will remain sanctioned, maybe not, but the blanket ban on business with Russian entities will come to a swift end imo.
This is not anything new or any great revelation on his part. It's commonly known we have a negative monthly cash flow (and have for three years at least). Until we get to BMD and we get an income boost as a result, that gap is not being bridged. 600m is just another of many depressing milestones with Moshiri.The ESK reckons we will be £600 million in debts soon if we don't get sold soon ....?
If the war in Ukraine finished tomorrow then I do think Moshiri/Usmanov would certainly keep the club. I think at that point there would be no point in denying that Usmanov was the power broker and as soon as possible he would involve himself in the ownership of the company.
The stadium is all but built , Usmanov could buy some or all of the shares from Moshiri , inject equity into the company to pay off loans which would probably be a PL requirement and then he is firmly in charge of a debt free club with a new stadium.
I think people would be surprised at how quickly restrictions on Russian oligarchs and on Russian trade would be lifted. Ultimately the ability to earn money is what drives these decisions.
I really would not be surprised if the continuing delay in the sale of the company is a tactic to stretch it as long as possible to either see the war finish or get an investor that will work with Usmanov at some future date.
No doubt there will and probably is The day after Peace breaks no doubt there will be and probably is unofficial business going on But if only 1 Oligarch remains de-sanctioned - we all know which one it will be
Probably, yes. Assuming the man at the top is removed from power and held to account (however than pans out) and a new more palatable regime comes to power, this could be a quick turnaround. All sides will want stability and uncomfortable compromises will 100% be needed to gain the co-operation of the power brokers in Russia.I agree with the poster that said we can’t be pining our hopes on the outcome of a foreign war. However, I don’t think the removal of sanctions will be a ‘down the track, oh by the way thing’.
The sanctions currently make it impossible for any Russian individual or company to do business with the West, so I think the sanctions will be a key point in negotiating peace. They will be an important part of the peace negotiations, and won’t be an afterthought.
Maybe certain individuals will remain sanctioned, maybe not, but the blanket ban on business with Russian entities will come to a swift end imo.
Probably, yes. Assuming the man at the top is removed from power and held to account (however than pans out) and a new more palatable regime comes to power, this could be a quick turnaround. All sides will want stability and uncomfortable compromises will 100% be needed to gain the co-operation of the power brokers in Russia.
It was the same post the fall of the Soviets, this will be no different when the time comes. The question for Everton, if we are still in sales limbo by the time that happens, is where that leaves Moshiri's business partner. It's entirely possible he may wish to retain a low profile and further investment into a premier league side is not really compatible with that.
The sanctions are to diminish and weaken the Russian war machine
They will not be on the table in terms of a "peace settlement" also the West is not a party to the war. They are not a "belligerent"
I think you have a fundamental misunderstanding about what the sanctions are in place for
The effect of sanctions is in 2025/2026 going to become more apparent because Russian government spending which has refuced the impact on the average Russian won't keep up with the costs/inflation they are experiencing. The Bank of Russia own projections state an expectation of the war ending in 2025. That isn't going to happen unless they withdraw
Even then Western sanctions will remain firmly in place