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2018/19 Jordan Pickford

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No because judging goalkeeper's performances on clean sheets is the biggest nonsense in the world. If it was all about clean sheets then Nigel Martyn doesn't win our player of the season award in 2003/04 for singlehandedly keeping us in the league, because he didn't keep many clean sheets so he can't have been good.
I'm not judging it on clean sheets just pointing out that with the best defenders England have to offer in front of him he still was conceding against such powerhouses of the football world such as Tunisia and Panama
 
I'm not judging it on clean sheets just pointing out that with the best defenders England have to offer in front of him he still was conceding against such powerhouses of the football world such as Algeria

Do you mean Tunisia? He conceded a penalty in that game, as a result of a foul from his defender. If that foul doesn't happen, he keeps your fabled clean sheet. How's it his fault the defender was a meff?
 
Do you mean Tunisia? He conceded a penalty in that game, as a result of a foul from his defender. If that foul doesn't happen, he keeps your fabled clean sheet. How's it his fault the defender was a meff?
Constant excuses Mike, what's the common denominator in all the defensive units he's played in over the years conceding boat loads of goals, Hint, it's him
 

Except it's not an excuse it's an actual reason and you haven't addressed it and are on the wind up so I'm leaving it here Sage have a great day luv u xxx
K m8, but ill leave u with this, even butland kept a clean sheet the other night with the same defence Pickford has in front of him.

Make of that what you will
 
K m8, but ill leave u with this, even butland kept a clean sheet the other night with the same defence Pickford has in front of him.

Make of that what you will

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It's a valid assessment imo, and I dont think too many people would reject at least most of it.

His head has gone. How can that not be seen?

" He was late back from the WC and could easily have got back in the fold before the end of pre-season but didn't. His actions on the pitch - running out of his area when he should have stayed put against Wolves; arguing with his defenders; leaving his foot in on Ings and chancing a red; taking huge chances passing out - indicate that he sees PL football with Everton as a chore rather than an honour...and he's encouraged to think that way because he has Stekelenburg as his understudy. "

1. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...dan-pickford-explains-exactly-return-14981336

2. Can't remember him running out tbh. But him becoming a sweeper is part and parcel of us playing with a higher line. If the defence pushes up but Pickford doesn't that leaves an awful lot of room to exploit. He will get caught out doing it but it's what is asked of him in the new system.

3. The argument you are referencing is between him and Holgate I believe. This was because there was a Huddersfield (maybe Southampton) player down injured and Holgate wanted to play on but Pickford elected to kick it out of play. There's nothing in it.

4. I'd argue protection but I can see your point about doing it against the top 6.

5. He's being asked to do it. Silva wants us to play out from the back and that includes Pickford. Of course there will be times he gets caught doing it (as we all know) but I don't think he is particularly risky with his pass selection for Everton. He takes more risks with England if anything but of course its easier when you have Stones and other players who want the ball instead of our team who cower at the mere mention of potentially receiving the ball.
 
There is so much wrong with this post. Comparing the form of a striker to a goalkeeper and then calling him a poor signing when he has took the England no. 1 spot and won all of the player of the year awards for us last season. But yeah, he's had an unimpressive start to a season so that means he's crap and was crap for the entirety of last season as well by proxy. What a ridiculous post.
Its okey for a gk to be in ‘bad form’ but not a striker? You cant be serious? Bad form is bad form. Players in bad form shouldnt play until they improve. If Pickford isnt good enough he should be dropped, just like Tosun, if he underperforms. Why did i have to explain that? It should be obvious to anyone watching football.

Also, Im not british, I couldnt care less who GKs for England. And Im sorry to point this out to you, but you dont have to be world class to get in your national side anymore, and its been like that for a while now.
Do you think Pickford would get a game for teams like France, Germany or Spain?
And him being voted our player of the season last year was a farce, all our players bar Walcott and Tosun(at times) were terrible from start to finish, including Pickford.

Also, I dont think I called him a bad signing. He’s not the signing some on here though he would be, but anyone could have told you that before he signed. He can improve, and I hope he will, but this is what, his 3d or 4th full season as a senior gk in the prem? Yet he keeps giving away the same bs goals, just like he did last season and the season before that. If his nationality was anything but English most on here would have called for his head after 5 games into last season. Insted a lot pretend like he’s big Nev incarnate.
Belive me buddy, he isnt.
 
" He was late back from the WC and could easily have got back in the fold before the end of pre-season but didn't. His actions on the pitch - running out of his area when he should have stayed put against Wolves; arguing with his defenders; leaving his foot in on Ings and chancing a red; taking huge chances passing out - indicate that he sees PL football with Everton as a chore rather than an honour...and he's encouraged to think that way because he has Stekelenburg as his understudy. "

1. https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/spo...dan-pickford-explains-exactly-return-14981336

2. Can't remember him running out tbh. But him becoming a sweeper is part and parcel of us playing with a higher line. If the defence pushes up but Pickford doesn't that leaves an awful lot of room to exploit. He will get caught out doing it but it's what is asked of him in the new system.

3. The argument you are referencing is between him and Holgate I believe. This was because there was a Huddersfield (maybe Southampton) player down injured and Holgate wanted to play on but Pickford elected to kick it out of play. There's nothing in it.

4. I'd argue protection but I can see your point about doing it against the top 6.

5. He's being asked to do it. Silva wants us to play out from the back and that includes Pickford. Of course there will be times he gets caught doing it (as we all know) but I don't think he is particularly risky with his pass selection for Everton. He takes more risks with England if anything but of course its easier when you have Stones and other players who want the ball instead of our team who cower at the mere mention of potentially receiving the ball.
7 days before the season started he reported back at FF.

He ran outside the box and wide into the LB position against Wolves when cover was getting over there...which is the monent he had the run-in with Holgate who was telling him he was wrong to do it.

His passing out from the back has been atrocious: to the opposition or to a team mate being marked or just hit out of play.


He's better than this. He can be a decent GK if he wants (certainly not the top quality one some believe he is or will be) but he's better than this horror show he's produced so far. His attitude stinks. That's important because the GK is the first line of defence and he really should be commanding his own situation for the defence to build their game on. That means we have weak foundations and it's the reason we've conceded alarmingly this season so far.
 

Its okey for a gk to be in ‘bad form’ but not a striker? You cant be serious? Bad form is bad form. Players in bad form shouldnt play until they improve. If Pickford isnt good enough he should be dropped, just like Tosun, if he underperforms. Why did i have to explain that? It should be obvious to anyone watching football.

Also, Im not british, I couldnt care less who GKs for England. And Im sorry to point this out to you, but you dont have to be world class to get in your national side anymore, and its been like that for a while now.
Do you think Pickford would get a game for teams like France, Germany or Spain?
And him being voted our player of the season last year was a farce, all our players bar Walcott and Tosun(at times) were terrible from start to finish, including Pickford.

Also, I dont think I called him a bad signing. He’s not the signing some on here though he would be, but anyone could have told you that before he signed. He can improve, and I hope he will, but this is what, his 3d or 4th full season as a senior gk in the prem? Yet he keeps giving away the same bs goals, just like he did last season and the season before that. If his nationality was anything but English most on here would have called for his head after 5 games into last season. Insted a lot pretend like he’s big Nev incarnate.
Belive me buddy, he isnt.
CBA arguing, so to keep this short, I disagree with everything in that post apart from the nationality stuff. I agree he wouldn't get in them teams, however it is still an achievement to be your country's number 1.
 
7 days before the season started he reported back at FF.

He ran outside the box and wide into the LB position against Wolves when cover was getting over there...which is the monent he had the run-in with Holgate who was telling him he was wrong to do it.

His passing out from the back has been atrocious: to the opposition or to a team mate being marked or just hit out of play.


He's better than this. He can be a decent GK if he wants (certainly not the top quality one some believe he is or will be) but he's better than this horror show he's produced so far. His attitude stinks. That's important because the GK is the first line of defence and he really should be commanding his own situation for the defence to build their game on. That means we have weak foundations and it's the reason we've conceded alarmingly this season so far.
Fair enough mate, have to disagree on the attitude thing though. I just don't see it.
 
CBA arguing, so to keep this short, I disagree with everything in that post apart from the nationality stuff. I agree he wouldn't get in them teams, however it is still an achievement to be your country's number 1.
Have you seen the state of the other English goalies, its hardly a ringing endorsement.
 

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