2017/18 Jordan Pickford

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Hello everyone, Sunderland fan here. Hope you don't mind me chucking my verdict on Pickford into the mix!

Obviously, I've seen quite a-lot of him and I've watched his career since he was 16. You've got one of the best potential keepers with Jordan, in 5 years I can see him being the next England keeper for years to come, I personally think him and Jack Butland will be fighting it out for that spot. But, taking my biased head off - He's better than Butland in my opinion.

However, he does still have a way to go. I watched your game yesterday and he was poor for the goal, the ball wasn't even hit with much power. Sometimes, he is guilty of diving too early and commiting himself too soon, often making it easier for the attacker. Think he was maybe done by the eyes, maybe im being too harsh. I'm a big fan of Pickford, but I was constantly arguing with people around me for suggesting he isn't the finished article yet. In our tragically woeful season under Moyes last year, yes he was in front of a terrible back line but he was still at fault for some of the goals. Too often, people said "Not Pickford's fault it's the rubbish defence in front of him" and it's followed on here with your fans, just what I've read on this thread. My argument, was he shouldn't be given a free pass of "It's the defenders fault for XYZ" just because he's playing in a really terrible team (Us I'm talking about not you just to clarify) :D

To summarise, you've got a fantastic talent with Pickford but you have to be patient (I know to pay 30m for a keeper and to be told "be patient" isn't ideal!) and you'll reap the rewards. His height often makes it harder for him to cover the goal (Not much you can do about that) he's also got to work on his concentration but that will come in time.

He's still a young lad and I can guarantee you he'll improve and will win you a lot of points over the course of the season. Maybe, taking him out of the team in the short term will help.

His ball distribution is very good, he's quite vocal and his reflexes are top notch. He's a top talent and I'll stick my neck on the line and say it's 30m very well spent as you've got a long-term keeper who could very well become world class (If he develops as he should).

Ashley Williams looks awful at the moment, I'm sure once you rectify your defensive problem and you have a more solid foundation, naturally, Pickford will be asked to do a bit less and won't come under as much pressure. But, you're well within your rights to expect a bit more from him. When you pay 30m for a keeper, that brings high expectations.

P.S - Thank you all very much for your whole contribution regarding our young Bradley. Your club has been a touch of class ;) Everton are now my second team because of this reason alone - That's more than likely why You're struggling! lol

Sorry for boring you all with my Pickford view. You probably knew all of what I said already.
 
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Hello everyone, Sunderland fan here. Hope you don't mind me chucking my verdict on Pickford into the mix!

Obviously, I've seen quite a-lot of him and I've watched his career since he was 16. You've got one of the best potential keepers with Jordan, in 5 years I can see him being the next England keeper for years to come, I personally think him and Jack Butland will be fighting it out for that spot. But, taking my biased head off - He's better than Butland in my opinion.

However, he does still have a way to go. I watched your game yesterday and he was poor for the goal, the ball wasn't even hit with much power. Sometimes, he is guilty of diving too early and commiting himself too soon, often making it easier for the attacker. Think he was maybe done by the eyes, maybe im being too harsh. I'm a big fan of Pickford, but I was constantly arguing with people around me for suggesting he isn't the finished article yet. In our tragically woeful season under Moyes last year, yes he was in front of a terrible back line but he was still at fault for some of the goals. Too often, people said "Not Pickford's fault it's the rubbish defence in front of him" and it's followed on here with your fans, just what I've read on this thread. My argument, was he shouldn't be given a free pass of "It's the defenders fault for XYZ" just because he's playing in a really terrible team (Us I'm talking about not you just to clarify) :D

To summarise, you've got a fantastic talent with Pickford but you have to be patient (I know to pay 30m for a keeper and to be told "be patient" isn't ideal!) and you'll reap the rewards. His height often makes it harder for him to cover the goal (Not much you can do about that) he's also got to work on his concentration but that will come in time.

He's still a young lad and I can guarantee you he'll improve and will win you a lot of points over the course of the season. Maybe, taking him out of the team in the short term will help.

His ball distribution is very good, he's quite vocal and his reflexes are top notch. He's a top talent and I'll stick my neck on the line and say it's 30m very well spent as you've got a long-term keeper who could very well become world class (If he develops as he should).

Ashley Williams looks awful at the moment, I'm sure once you rectify your defensive problem and you have a more solid foundation, naturally, Pickford will be asked to do a bit less and won't come under as much pressure. But, you're well within your rights to expect a bit more from him. When you pay 30m for a keeper, that brings high expectations.

P.S - Thank you all very much for your whole contribution regarding our young Bradley. Your club has been a touch of class ;) Everton are now my second team because of this reason alone - That's more than likely why You're struggling! lol

Sorry for boring you all with my Pickford view. You probably knew all of what I said already.
Ill take a view of a mackem over that other lot any day of the week.

Point taken on Pickford. If he was the finished article he'd have been double (and with respect, not playing for Sunderland) but signs have certainly been encouraging so far.
 
Ill take a view of a mackem over that other lot any day of the week.

Point taken on Pickford. If he was the finished article he'd have been double (and with respect, not playing for Sunderland) but signs have certainly been encouraging so far.

Thanks mate! Absolutely, some keepers don't even peak till they hit 29/30. He's very young still.

We took your 30m and stupidly, naively expected some of the funds to go back in the team. How wrong we were. Instead, it was simply given to Ellis Short to help pay off our crippling debt.

We're in a real terrible position but I won't go off topic and rant as this is about Pickford.

;)
 
Hello everyone, Sunderland fan here. Hope you don't mind me chucking my verdict on Pickford into the mix!

Obviously, I've seen quite a-lot of him and I've watched his career since he was 16. You've got one of the best potential keepers with Jordan, in 5 years I can see him being the next England keeper for years to come, I personally think him and Jack Butland will be fighting it out for that spot. But, taking my biased head off - He's better than Butland in my opinion.

However, he does still have a way to go. I watched your game yesterday and he was poor for the goal, the ball wasn't even hit with much power. Sometimes, he is guilty of diving too early and commiting himself too soon, often making it easier for the attacker. Think he was maybe done by the eyes, maybe im being too harsh. I'm a big fan of Pickford, but I was constantly arguing with people around me for suggesting he isn't the finished article yet. In our tragically woeful season under Moyes last year, yes he was in front of a terrible back line but he was still at fault for some of the goals. Too often, people said "Not Pickford's fault it's the rubbish defence in front of him" and it's followed on here with your fans, just what I've read on this thread. My argument, was he shouldn't be given a free pass of "It's the defenders fault for XYZ" just because he's playing in a really terrible team (Us I'm talking about not you just to clarify) :D

To summarise, you've got a fantastic talent with Pickford but you have to be patient (I know to pay 30m for a keeper and to be told "be patient" isn't ideal!) and you'll reap the rewards. His height often makes it harder for him to cover the goal (Not much you can do about that) he's also got to work on his concentration but that will come in time.

He's still a young lad and I can guarantee you he'll improve and will win you a lot of points over the course of the season. Maybe, taking him out of the team in the short term will help.

His ball distribution is very good, he's quite vocal and his reflexes are top notch. He's a top talent and I'll stick my neck on the line and say it's 30m very well spent as you've got a long-term keeper who could very well become world class (If he develops as he should).

Ashley Williams looks awful at the moment, I'm sure once you rectify your defensive problem and you have a more solid foundation, naturally, Pickford will be asked to do a bit less and won't come under as much pressure. But, you're well within your rights to expect a bit more from him. When you pay 30m for a keeper, that brings high expectations.

P.S - Thank you all very much for your whole contribution regarding our young Bradley. Your club has been a touch of class ;) Everton are now my second team because of this reason alone - That's more than likely why You're struggling! lol

Sorry for boring you all with my Pickford view. You probably knew all of what I said already.
Is right mate.

Welcome to GOT, post loads! :)


*But stop clearly jinxing us ffs
 

You don't recall the save from Defoe that won us the points the game before last? You mustn't have seen it, then; you'd remember if you had. Better than decent that one. As the man said, the 'keeper is the least of our worries.

Still has only made one decent save in the last 5 games. NOT exempt from criticism
 
Of all the summer signings I'm sure he will prove to be the best by a mile in the long term.
After we signed him I watched him in that young England tournament and he did seem a bit unsure/indecisive coming for crosses. Yesterday he dropped a couple of simple catches. I guess playing in front our our back four at the moment would make anyone nervous though.
He is the least our our worries at the moment compared with the shower playing in front of him
 

OK, so he has made ONE good save in the last 5 games, therefore exempt from criticism

LOL

I didn't say he had made more than one, or was exempt from criticism, I was merely countering the argument he hasn't done anything at all

edit: just checked your original message, you said he hadn't made one save of note in 5 games, and now your saying he has made ONE,

get TF lad
 
I didn't say he had made more than one, or was exempt from criticism, I was merely countering the argument he hasn't done anything at all

edit: just checked your original message, you said he hadn't made one save of note in 5 games, and now your saying he has made ONE,

get TF lad


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Mate, I only changed it to one cos someone else reminded me of the ONE save of note he had made, basically, if you read the original stuff, I was just saying pickford has also not been great, and CAN be criticised along with the others. He has hardly set the world alight during this dark period has he. I like the guy, he has just been bang average recently.
 
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Mate, I only changed it to one cos someone else reminded me of the ONE save of note he had made, basically, if you read the original stuff, I was just saying pickford has also not been great, and CAN be criticised along with the others. He has hardly set the world alight during this dark period has he. I like the guy, he has just been bang average recently.

He also saved a penalty V Split and that last minute save V Stoke probably saved us 2 points. He's obviously not perfect but he's still young and has the potential to be our keeper for the next several seasons. He's certainly an upgrade on Robles & Steck.
 
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Mate, I only changed it to one cos someone else reminded me of the ONE save of note he had made, basically, if you read the original stuff, I was just saying pickford has also not been great, and CAN be criticised along with the others. He has hardly set the world alight during this dark period has he. I like the guy, he has just been bang average recently.
Get TF lad,who do you think you are,you can't have a different opinion on here lad sake.
 
He also saved a penalty V Split and that last minute save V Stoke probably saved us 2 points. He's obviously not perfect but he's still young and has the potential to be our keeper for the next several seasons. He's certainly an upgrade on Robles & Steck.

We've conceded 17 goals since then like.

Remember Stek saving 2 penos in one game?

Just be honest, he has not been a 30 mil keeper recently, it is OK to say so too.
 

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