Jose Baxter

[Gladystweet]

He's pulling wheelies around Finch Farm as we speak !

That's Mickey Thomas.

 

[irishblue11]

everton is a premier league football club not a foundation to give lads a 2nd/3rd chance. sends a bad message to the lads who have kept their heads down, worked hard and still ended up being released.

 

[dublinbluenose]

How would he be taking someone else's place - is there a max squad amount in the 23's ?

Edit: can't see anything on the premier league site

https://www.premierleague.com/premier-league-2-explained

 

[TheCount]

Seems this isn't a joke. Get's worse the more I think about it

 

[davek]

I think it's a bad move.

We're a football club first, one that hasn't won a trophy for 22 years.

As much as we like to cling on to small successes/PR exercises for the club, I'm of the belief that Everton need to concentrate on the football, and leave the community stuff to EITC and the clubs directors.

We're supporters of the club, so our natural instinct is to support but whatever way we spin it, Jose Baxter is taking a contract and another's place in the U23 squad. Every minute he gets, is a minute less for Tom Davies v2. It's also a very clear irrefutable statement that there's a tolerance at Everton to drug abuse.

It's jobs for the boys.

Baxter got a contract at Oldham because Stubbs had a word.
Baxter got a move to Sheff United because Weir.
Baxter got a move back to Everton because Kenwright/Unsworth.

All the above isn't conjecture.

Everyone deserves a second chance, especially with the disclaimer of youth but there's a line and a point when you need to wake up.

Let's get it right - he's a professional footballer here. He's had every opportunity in life.

My instinct is that the lad is a wrong'un. He's spat in the faces of too many. Suspended twice in nine months at 23/24 years of age.

All that said, I trust David Unsworth. I just hope there isn't external factors/pressures involved here due to Baxter's influence in Liverpool.

Agree completely with that. I have no idea how anyone can argue this can be seen in a good light.

This is a football club not a drop in centre. It's a massive PR own goal.

As importantly, it brings up - as you suggest - the work of EitC, an organisation I've underlined time and again is separate but is being used by the club for positive PR purposes for the club. Well, I think on this occasion there's something toxic about the blurring of lines they seek to bring about and the club are going to get blowback from this. Hopefully the decision is stopped or reversed and then a firewall is finally placed between EitC and EFC. We are a sports organisation involved in competition. End of story. We give publicity through our name to people doing good things in the community? Fine. Thats great. Glad the club can heighten their profile so they achieve in that respect. But any more claimed significant connection is just the type of propaganda an organisation that doesn't achieve in its core activity would utilise to mask their inadequacies.

 

[Gladystweet]

Don't know about the under 23's but Jose is causing murder in GOT.

 

[Brennan]

How would he be taking someone else's place - is there a max squad amount in the 23's ?

Edit: can't see anything on the premier league site

https://www.premierleague.com/premier-league-2-explained

He wouldn't be, it's a nonsensical suggestion.

 

[Milkman]

Wow, if @davek disapproves then it must be bad...

 

[Groucho]

Investing time/minutes to a charity case at the expense of another player doesn't seem productive

Were you opposed to the £200,000 we gave to Bradley's family then ?

I personally don't think EITC or Bradley is what GOT is referring to really mate.

I think 'charity case' is specifically aimed at Baxter who hasn't exactly covered himself in glory over the years.

 

[Blue83]

Niasse scoring, Baxter signing...what's going on?

If you didn't take the postings on here with a grain of salt you could say it's the end times man

 

[TheGhostOfBolasie]

I don't imagine he'd be here if Bill Kenwright wasn't still stinking the place out with his presence.
Sooner the Coronation Street loving luvvy goes the better.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

I personally don't think EITC or Bradley is what GOT is referring to really mate.

I think 'charity case' is specifically aimed at Baxter who hasn't exactly covered himself in glory over the years.

Ringing endorsement there.

Who needs enemies...

Don't know about the under 23's but Jose is causing murder in GOT.

lol

 

[AdaBrummieblue]

Agree completely with that. I have no idea how anyone can argue this can be seen in a good light.

This is a football club not a drop in centre. It's a massive PR own goal.

As importantly, it brings up - as you suggest - the work of EitC, an organisation I've underlined time and again is separate but is being used by the club for positive PR purposes for the club. Well, I think on this occasion there's something toxic about the blurring of lines they seek to bring about and the club are going to get blowback from this. Hopefully the decision is stopped or reversed and then a firewall is finally placed between EitC and EFC. We are a sports organisation involved in competition. End of story. We give publicity through our name to people doing good things in the community? Fine. Thats great. Glad the club can heighten their profile so they achieve in that respect. But any more claimed significant connection is just the type of propaganda an organisation that doesn't achieve in its core activity would utilise to mask their inadequacies.

You're really not right, you. (That's something coming from me)... This is the club looking after one of their own. ONE OF US. Yeah he's a screw up. That's the point. He's been brought back home to be given one year to sort himself out, regain fitness get a few u23 games and find himself a contract elsewhere. This isn't a pr stunt. This is the club giving an ex player a leg up in their time of need. This is a class act club showing their support for one of their own and not turning their back on him like you and a few others would have done. I honestly have to question, when reading your comments, how much of a Blue you actually are. Sure, I'm off my head, which is why I try to only post in moments of mental clarity, but you? You constantly bring us down and attempt to undermine everything good the club is trying to do. I thank all that's Holy that your voice is minuscule and not to be heard elsewhere.

 

[Mountfield1985]

Agree completely with that. I have no idea how anyone can argue this can be seen in a good light.

This is a football club not a drop in centre. It's a massive PR own goal.

As importantly, it brings up - as you suggest - the work of EitC, an organisation I've underlined time and again is separate but is being used by the club for positive PR purposes for the club. Well, I think on this occasion there's something toxic about the blurring of lines they seek to bring about and the club are going to get blowback from this. Hopefully the decision is stopped or reversed and then a firewall is finally placed between EitC and EFC. We are a sports organisation involved in competition. End of story. We give publicity through our name to people doing good things in the community? Fine. Thats great. Glad the club can heighten their profile so they achieve in that respect. But any more claimed significant connection is just the type of propaganda an organisation that doesn't achieve in its core activity would utilise to mask their inadequacies.

EiTC is a completely seperate entity, and you're right, their achievements are their own and not EFC's. That is a bug bear of mine too.

But as i've said earlier, I don't see this Baxter deal as complete charity. I think it may well work out well for both parties.

A point I would like to make though, is why are we announcing this now? If they'd just quietly let on during the summer that he was training with us and on a very minimal contract, it wouldn't seem half as big of a deal. Very odd.

 

[dublinbluenose]

Agree completely with that. I have no idea how anyone can argue this can be seen in a good light.

This is a football club not a drop in centre. It's a massive PR own goal.

As importantly, it brings up - as you suggest - the work of EitC, an organisation I've underlined time and again is separate but is being used by the club for positive PR purposes for the club. Well, I think on this occasion there's something toxic about the blurring of lines they seek to bring about and the club are going to get blowback from this. Hopefully the decision is stopped or reversed and then a firewall is finally placed between EitC and EFC. We are a sports organisation involved in competition. End of story. We give publicity through our name to people doing good things in the community? Fine. Thats great. Glad the club can heighten their profile so they achieve in that respect. But any more claimed significant connection is just the type of propaganda an organisation that doesn't achieve in its core activity would utilise to mask their inadequacies.

If you're willing to believe Unsy is ready for the big job then you have to trust his judgement on this as well, regardless of your feelings on the player.