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2022/23 Kevin Thelwell

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Eggs said:
…it was high risk having DCL as our only effective striker, especially with his injury record. This isn’t hindsight, this was highlighted on here ahead of DCLs absence.

Simms undoubtedly a better option than Rondon yet allowed to go on loan. Rondon not selected when available at Villa says it all.

THIS PREMIER LEAGUE CLUB DO NOT HAVE A STRIKER.

I think it’s reasonable to say that the DoF has to be held to account, he’s culpable.
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Say Simms stays, DCL stays fit - he doesn't play a game or hardly a game. We then have an asset that has minimal to no value. If we don't think Simms is good enough or we want him to play week in week out to see if he can get to a level then absolutely it is the right thing to do to send him on loan. We were always getting another body in, it's just taking longer. That might be because they know Gordon is probably going so there will be cash available for a higher quality player, or they might be seeing how much is left once all the targets are in sight and have been negotiated.

People are thinking this job is simple when it's clearly not and you can see the backlash if we break the financial regs again this season leading to more problems next summer.
 
Simon Buttle said:
You can argue we as fans need to wait till the end of the window and see what happens but we do have a right to be concerned imo. Thelwell has never rebuilt any team before and Lampard is a rookie manager so we essentially have 2 people learning on the job. I can understand why some are sceptical especially when you see that there is still clear involvement in transfers at boardroom level.
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…I wouldn’t jump to conclusion about Thelwell just yet, but he‘s rightly being criticised for the mess we’re in regarding our total lack of attacking options going into a new season (regardless of who he brings in before the end of the month).
 
The binman chronicles said:
Say Simms stays, DCL stays fit - he doesn't play a game or hardly a game. We then have an asset that has minimal to no value. If we don't think Simms is good enough or we want him to play week in week out to see if he can get to a level then absolutely it is the right thing to do to send him on loan. We were always getting another body in, it's just taking longer. That might be because they know Gordon is probably going so there will be cash available for a higher quality player, or they might be seeing how much is left once all the targets are in sight and have been negotiated.

People are thinking this job is simple when it's clearly not and you can see the backlash if we break the financial regs again this season leading to more problems next summer.
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…I’m sure the plan was/is to bring effective back-up to DCL, but given his fragility then surely the better option was to keep Simms until the additional striker was acquired. No problem then sending Simms on loan, the demand will be there for him throughout the window.

i‘m of the view Simms is not seen as an effective back-up but he falls into the ‘better than Rondon’ category and at least we have a conventional young striker for these few games.

I’d be very surprised if Simms ever puts on an Everton first team shirt, I have no issue with that but sending him on loan whilst keeping Rondon was reckless.
 
There is no better Everton player than a youth player or the one who's not playing - a tale as old as time with Evertonians! From Idan Tal to Gbamin...
 
murphy89 said:
They are of course they are. But do you want him to just buy any available striker?
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Of course not, especially given the massive money wastage issues we've already incurred. It should however have been a priority search in advance given Richarlison was always going... no other Premier club would have to rely on Rondon, with all due respect, should their main striker be missing injured for weeks.
 

murphy89 said:
There is no better Everton player than a youth player or the one who's not playing - a tale as old as time with Evertonians! From Idan Tal to Gbamin...
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…unless you hadn’t noticed, Simms is playing and Rondon isn’t.

I’m not advocating Simms as a long-term support, just better than Rondon until somebody comes in.
 
murphy89 said:
He is playing at lower level for Sunderland...

Clearly the manager and coaching staff think otherwise.
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….I don’t necessarily agree with ‘clearly the manager and coaching staff think otherwise’. Rondon was available for selection as our only striker last week and didn’t start.

I’m more inclined to think neither Simms or Rondon were seen as effective back-up, the plan has always been to bring somebody in. The reason Simms is at Sunderland and Rondon is still here is simply because nobody wanted Rondon, not because he’s rated higher.

Just my opinion, of course.
 
No doubt he's been "trying" but yet again our DOF has left another manager down by failing to get the players needed at the start of the season.

We do it every year, know what we need, sign other players and leave it late to finish our business.

I don't think we will, but if we lose tomorrow we've lost points purely because lampard hasn't been given a striker he's wanted and needed since the day Richy left 6 weeks ago.

Although I doubt he'll say as much, I think he's fuming with it.

Imagine going into the 3rd game of the season with rondon as your only striker at the club, criminal from the board again
 
I would rather us get the player we want before the window closes than get A player just for the sake of it for these games we have played and will play before the end of August.
 

He’s the highest ranking member of the talent scouting and acquisition wing of a football club that currently doesn’t have any kind of adequate attacker three games into the season. Of course he’s culpable. He’s not as culpable as those above him and conditions aren’t ideal for sure, but by the very nature of the position he is in he gets some blame same as Walsh and the same as Brands
 
Goodisongang said:
No doubt he's been "trying" but yet again our DOF has left another manager down by failing to get the players needed at the start of the season.

We do it every year, know what we need, sign other players and leave it late to finish our business.

I don't think we will, but if we lose tomorrow we've lost points purely because lampard hasn't been given a striker he's wanted and needed since the day Richy left 6 weeks ago.

Although I doubt he'll say as much, I think he's fuming with it.

Imagine going into the 3rd game of the season with rondon as your only striker at the club, criminal from the board again
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He’s only worked under the one manager, Frank
 
I don’t know whose responsible, however, there has got to be culpability either from individuals and or the club as a whole. When everyone knew last season, one of the main attributes to us being poor was injuries to DCL. So to go into a new season, knowing that Richy has been going for atleast a year, and DCL cannot be relied on, without having any strikers or attacking players lined up, screams of total ineptitude to the point it’s embarrassing. Everton can only hold onto the fact they have our support through heartstrings and generational support for so long, before we as a fan base get tired of the mediocrity and become disillusioned to the point we just can’t be bothered anymore
 

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