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2022/23 Kevin Thelwell

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Gilbert.. said:
I still struggle to get my head around what credentials he has to put players on the pitch at clubs this level. Never made the grade at playing level. He might have all the FIFA badges but i still class that as an academic achievement. I think anybody could get them with dedication. Doesnt mean you can spot players. Unless it sticks out like a sore thumb that a DOF has an eye for it i still have my doubts. He's been doing this for over 20 years. Does anything he's done say he's very successful.
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…pretty much what I’ve been saying since his appointment. The recruitment of ‘players’ evidence should’ve been teased out at interview but instead this fella talks like a politician. He’ll have impressed Moshiri with his ‘vision of the future’, when he should’ve been quizzed about players he’d identified and knowledge of global markets.

it’s what happens when you have non-football people doing the hiring.
 
Bebeto said:
Job of a dof is not only identifying targets but also to convince them to join us above anybody else. In fact today is relatively easy to identify players with good prospects, what's more difficult is convinced them that we are their best option. And this is where this guy is failling for me. We keep missing out on player after player...the ones that we are still in talks to are not overly keen to join us and so putting zero pressure in their clubs to sell. We need somebody with a name recognisable internationally with charisma.
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Wont help the constant relegation battles and unstable relationship owner and board have with fans, which gets the very public airing. We are not that attractive to young upcoming talent compared to others and compared to what we have been in recent past. We will get some evidently, bet we turn more away than we can attract. However, will say Dele did us great service recently in his praise for the club.
 
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Eggs said:
…pretty much what I’ve been saying since his appointment. The recruitment of ‘players’ evidence should’ve been teased out at interview but instead this fella talks like a politician. He’ll have impressed Moshiri with his ‘vision of the future’, when he should’ve been quizzed about players he’d identified and knowledge of global markets.

it’s what happens when you have non-football people doing the hiring.
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Most chairman are non football people tbf
I'm just yet to be sold on the DOF role. Let them do the paperwork if they must. But when you step back and look at Brands and Thelwell having major says on who goes on the pitch in the past 5 years i keep asking why. No history of management. No playing history. Why are they given such a responsibility. Dithering Dave he might have been but i prefered the Moyes era. Few scouts. But lived or died by the sword with his choices.
 
Gilbert.. said:
Most chairman are non football people tbf
I'm just yet to be sold on the DOF role. Let them do the paperwork if they must. But when you step back and look at Brands and Thelwell having major says on who goes on the pitch in the past 5 years i keep asking why. No history of management. No playing history. Why are they given such a responsibility. Dithering Dave he might have been but i prefered the Moyes era. Few scouts. But lived or died by the sword with his choices.
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…but proper businessmen are shrewd enough to employ football people to manage the key football appointments.
 

Hi Kevin, can you have a look at this for me please :

Goalkeepers
Jordan Pickford
Andy Lonergan
João Virgínia

If Pickford gets injured, we are utterly goosed, totally goosed, please resolve.

Centre Backs
James Tarkowski
Michael Keane
Mason Holgate
Ben Godfrey
Jarrad Branthwaite

Sell any of those that arent called James and use the money to improve other areas, of course only sell Jarrad if the offer is John Stones big.

Midfield
Amadou Onana
James Garner
Idrissa Gueye
Abdoulaye Doucouré
Alex Iwobi
André Gomes
Jean-Philippe Gbamin
Dele Alli

Would be super if you could sell/loan 2 or 3 of these players and replace them with at least 1 player who can pick a pass, again, I have no real preference on who to remove, but if its Onana, make sure you get a price his potential warrants.

Wide Forwards
Dwight McNeil
Arnaut Danjuma
Demarai Gray

Our Manager does not like Gray, so get him gone and replace him with a talented boy, bit light here and could possibly do with A N Other.

Strikers
Dominic Calvert-Lewin
Neal Maupay

Im saying nothing here Kev, I think the above says its all.

Thats all for now Kev, touch base again in a few weeks.
 
It’s still very early to judge, and he needs to sort another forward in this window, but on paper here are his appointments since he’s been in post (figures from transfer market in euros)

Manager:
Dyche - exactly right man to keep us up last season

Players in:
Tarkowski - free - hit
Coady - loan - average
Garner -10.4 mill - hit
McNeil - 17 mill- hit
Onana - 35 mill - hit
Gueye - 4 mill - hit
Vinagre - loan- miss
Maupay - 11.8 mill - miss
Danjuma -loan- tbc
Young - free- tbc

Out:
Richarlison - 58 mill
Gordon - 45 mill
Allan - ooc
Kenny - ooc
Rondon - ooc
Kean - 30 mill
Simms - 7 mill
Nkonkou - 2 mill
Mina - ooc
Begovic - ooc
Davies - ooc
Townsend - ooc


So looking at incomings, the signings he’s paid money for have all performed with the exception of Maupay. Onana and Garner now carry values significantly higher than what we paid for them. Tarkowski Gueye and I suspect Danjuma will all be key first team players this season and arrived for only a small outlay.

In terms of outgoings the star assets have been sold for what I’d consider the top of their value and contracts haven’t been extended for the players who have left (they could have)

Could the squad be in better shape? Absolutely. Could we have bought more players in? Yes. None of us however know the financial constraints we operate in

As far as I can see though upto now money is being spent better than it was under Brands and Walsh, and we seem to have stopped senseless contract extensions. The wage bill must be coming down as players contracts continue to expire.

If Dyche can place us mid table this season, we clear out Gbamin Gomes and any others from those days of wage largesse, we’re on the path to getting back within FFP constraints and we’ll have a team with assets in Pickford Patterson Garner Branthwaite Onana and let’s hope Chermiti can join that group.

I know he’s not popular on here at all but it was never a 12 month job fixing the damage at the club. He needs longer before proper judgement can be made.
 
Saint Domingo said:
It’s still very early to judge, and he needs to sort another forward in this window, but on paper here are his appointments since he’s been in post (figures from transfer market in euros)

Manager:
Dyche - exactly right man to keep us up last season

Players in:
Tarkowski - free - hit
Coady - loan - average
Garner -10.4 mill - hit
McNeil - 17 mill- hit
Onana - 35 mill - hit
Gueye - 4 mill - hit
Vinagre - loan- miss
Maupay - 11.8 mill - miss
Danjuma -loan- tbc
Young - free- tbc

Out:
Richarlison - 58 mill
Gordon - 45 mill
Allan - ooc
Kenny - ooc
Rondon - ooc
Kean - 30 mill
Simms - 7 mill
Nkonkou - 2 mill
Mina - ooc
Begovic - ooc
Davies - ooc
Townsend - ooc


So looking at incomings, the signings he’s paid money for have all performed with the exception of Maupay. Onana and Garner now carry values significantly higher than what we paid for them. Tarkowski Gueye and I suspect Danjuma will all be key first team players this season and arrived for only a small outlay.

In terms of outgoings the star assets have been sold for what I’d consider the top of their value and contracts haven’t been extended for the players who have left (they could have)

Could the squad be in better shape? Absolutely. Could we have bought more players in? Yes. None of us however know the financial constraints we operate in

As far as I can see though upto now money is being spent better than it was under Brands and Walsh, and we seem to have stopped senseless contract extensions. The wage bill must be coming down as players contracts continue to expire.

If Dyche can place us mid table this season, we clear out Gbamin Gomes and any others from those days of wage largesse, we’re on the path to getting back within FFP constraints and we’ll have a team with assets in Pickford Patterson Garner Branthwaite Onana and let’s hope Chermiti can join that group.

I know he’s not popular on here at all but it was never a 12 month job fixing the damage at the club. He needs longer before proper judgement can be made.
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Good post, agree with nearly all of that.

Not sure Onana has been hit, yet. Arsenal home game was glimpse of potential. Hard for any young player to be consistent in first PL season, esp playing in that side.

Maupay is big miss against Thelwell. Nearly cost us survival. Will never understand that signing.

Gordon will prove himself worth more than £40-45m imo. Don't think he's hit anything like his full potential. Might be wrong but think he'll be very good player in time.
 
Zatara said:
So, to confirm...the stories which seem true inside your head are believable.

But those you dont believe are false.

Do you only believe the pretty girls, not the ugly ones?


Wrong.


Why post lies.


Still, not 100% on hit rates i think...


Its all subjective...all these supposed ITKs have got things wrong.



Lies. Shall i post about yer ma now?

is that how this works...


No.
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Found a source for Iwobi being for sale yet?
 
Goat said:
Hi Kevin, can you have a look at this for me please :

Goalkeepers
Jordan Pickford
Andy Lonergan
João Virgínia

If Pickford gets injured, we are utterly goosed, totally goosed, please resolve.

Centre Backs
James Tarkowski
Michael Keane
Mason Holgate
Ben Godfrey
Jarrad Branthwaite

Sell any of those that arent called James and use the money to improve other areas, of course only sell Jarrad if the offer is John Stones big.

Midfield
Amadou Onana
James Garner
Idrissa Gueye
Abdoulaye Doucouré
Alex Iwobi
André Gomes
Jean-Philippe Gbamin
Dele Alli

Would be super if you could sell/loan 2 or 3 of these players and replace them with at least 1 player who can pick a pass, again, I have no real preference on who to remove, but if its Onana, make sure you get a price his potential warrants.

Wide Forwards
Dwight McNeil
Arnaut Danjuma
Demarai Gray

Our Manager does not like Gray, so get him gone and replace him with a talented boy, bit light here and could possibly do with A N Other.

Strikers
Dominic Calvert-Lewin
Neal Maupay

Im saying nothing here Kev, I think the above says its all.

Thats all for now Kev, touch base again in a few weeks.
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Terrifying reading the squad on paper
 

Exeter_Gently said:
@Hinchcliffe's Corner @Zatara

Guys am on the mission to make this place a "no agro zone" between the hours on 3am to 8am. A place where we become one blue spirit and watch the sunrise together with hope and positivity of us finally signing decent forwards.


Guys let just come to together ey.
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No aggro from me, just want to know how reliable it is that Thelwell is actively looking to move Iwobi on. Happy as a pig in muck pal.
 

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