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2023/24 Kevin Thelwell

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Of course. The outs have been good business.

The ins are nowhere near boosting the squad and we know where the £100mill of player sales since January have gone.
I think if we're buying players like Chermiti for 1 mil up front, or Beto with no payment due till next year, and all that money has disappeared as you say, then the issues are way higher up than Thelwell, but most of us know that.
 
Happy and content with the window to be honest.

Did more than I thought we would to be honest. I would have been happy with a striker and two wingers. I was hoping but not particularly confident of getting quality like Beto and Harrison, Danjuma looks good - but he looks rusty to me and hopefully improves. We knew where we short, up front and in wide forward areas - we've improved that.

Flipping:

Mapauy - Beto
Iwobi - Harrison
Simms - Chemitit
Townsend - Danjuma
Vinagre - Young

Is decent incremental improvement and balances the squad, thats what i asked for.

Some of the outs were outstanding, millstones around the clubs neck are gone from a financial and playing point of view. Loosing Mina and Iwobi alone made/saved the £46 million alone. Losing the likes of Davies, Coady, Maupay adnd Townsend, Gbamin, Holgate who contributed or impacted very little really cuts costs - we often talk about our 90% wage to turnover ratio or our annual losses of 100 mill + that lmit it so much - well some of the main deadwood cuprits have been shifted. Lastly you need to look at the utilastion of the academy as a resource and its assets in creating revenue - this is a model the likes of City and Chelsea use to absolutes beast other lcubs financially but more importantly comply with FFP- for the first time under any DOF here we have utilizable and raised significant revenue on developing academy products - its a clear strategy and one that should be acknowledged and validated. Simms, Cannon, Niells, Sammuals Smith, Price all brought in fees - in the window before Quirk and Broadhead did. When you accumulate its a significant amount of badly needed money.

Lets be honest, Thelwell has competing needs, he needs to cut costs, bring down our losses, comply with profit and sustainability get rid of dead wood and improve the team - all with no money. In that context hes balanced all of that and done very well - on each of those things i think hes done very very well.

Lastly i want to mention the limits hes working under. The club is in trouble, make no mistake - the first worrying sign of heading toward administration is cashflow problems. We have cashflow problems - heres what happening - up to this point, we could make 100+ million losses every year and Moshiri or Usmanov were happy to write a black cheque to cover them, thats how we kept the light on - ive said it for years we are dependent on Moshriri. This year the money tap has been turned off. There is a reason NSNOW targeted Kenwright as opposed to Moshiri - they know the club cant fund itself without Moshiri - that why i always said he was the lightening rod for Moshiri and NSNOW were colluding with Moshiri. Its become evident in this window - that Moshiri wont be funding any more of our losses and the club will have to raise fund to become self sufficient - that why NSNOW and the acolytes have gone after Moshiri this week in a new departure for them. Its become clear as the window has gone on, hes selling the club and any deals he sanctioned would be on the never, never - get now - pay later after hes sold up and not be here when the cash call falls due. The club is essentially a skip fire.

That is what has happened in the window and its not Thelwell not wanting to recruit players or incompetency its literally the club needs money to be able to pay the electricity bill and not go into administration. So hes working in the most severe limits and adversity in the league.

When you weigh it all up, hes done well in my opinion and i see the skill, logic, coherence and forboddance to make it all happen.

Its a lot more complex then - why didn't he sign a winger, Centre half, full backs or attacking midfielder, its funny people think he didn't want to - who doesn't want more resources in their job to do it optimally.
An excellent post. How he managed to negotiate the deal for Beto was sensational in the circumstances and I think it will turn out to be the game changer. I would have liked a competent centre half as backup - a safe pair of hands like a Jonny Evans or Dawson type but we go with what we have.
 

In May when we are on the brink of relegation, Keane has had a dreadful season and Chermiti has done nothing at all - people can come back on here and tell me how good Thelwell was.
 
Well, I’m not over the moon that we didn’t get someone to replace Iwobi through the door, but other than that it’s been a much better window than I feared early on.

Some huge outs. Surely our wage bill is in better shape. There can’t be many outstanding eye-watering contracts now…
 
Well, I’m not over the moon that we didn’t get someone to replace Iwobi through the door, but other than that it’s been a much better window than I feared early on.

Some huge outs. Surely our wage bill is in better shape now. There can’t be many outstanding eye-watering contracts now…

Could be down to 70% of turnover.
 

An excellent post. How he managed to negotiate the deal for Beto was sensational in the circumstances and I think it will turn out to be the game changer. I would have liked a competent centre half as backup - a safe pair of hands like a Jonny Evans or Dawson type but we go with what we have.

Thanks mate. For FFP it wont make a difference mate, it will be amortised the normal way at about 5/6 mill in this year accounts - the worrying thing it point to the cashflow problem at the club - there is no money for the transfer to be given to the other club this year. While it also highlights the dynamic with Moshiri - happy for the deal to be done because he wont be here when the cash call comes. Kev has done well to manage it.

Cetre half is a funny one, we had way to many in my opinion - we had what 6/7 last yer its was an area that needed cutting. I see many people say we need a centre half, because they dont like Keane and Godfrey in the main - but its a game of opinions - both were England internationals not so long ago and i wonder can we get better out of them. JT a given, Branthwaite is an addition we are all hopeful on - people say we need another Centre half - but they also want this lad to be developed and given a chance so start - again that not happening just bringing in another layer of players (like Coady) on existing ones - that a mistake weve made before - i dont think we need more then 4 Centre halfs - as our most competitive that all weve ever had.
 
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Could be down to 70% of turnover.
Whatever it is will still be insane for any normal business, but hopefully more inline with peers.

I know cash flow is an issue for Moshiri, but I can also see this economisation being used to demonstrate newly-found fiscal responsibility ahead of our hearing in October.
 

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