Koeman: "Barkley looking for a new challenge"

[Stuartisitc1878]

I respect Barkley more for keeping schtum.

i disagree.... but hey, differing opinions is healthy

 

[Eggs]

I could be wrong, but I honestly think the United and Arsenal links are spin encouraging an auction.

I'd be surprised if his agent hasn't already discussed terms on the quiet with Levy. Pochettino will want to get a player he's waited and waited for, apparently.

..I agree about the agent talking with Spurs but the unknown is whether he's talked with others. I look at United and think he'd be a useful addition to the squad. I have doubts he'd force his way into a regular starting place, especially for key games but I can see why Mourinho might want him.

 

[BlueToff]

Hate to say it, but United are winners. That attitude will rub off on Lukaku very quickly and he'll be bossing a lot of big teams in big games.

We'll see.

I know you can't judge from pre-season, but in the games vs Madrid and Barca, he really has looked just like he did for us in the instances we came up against a better/more talented side and weren't playing particularly well.

I think Rom at the moment - and he's only young - is one of those players who you can tell if he's going to have a good game in the first 10 minutes or so.

Same with Ross, to an extent.

 

[truebluejersey]

There is a danger this is being over complicated. At the end of The day Ross knows he isn't Koeman s first choice, and from that fact wouldnt want to sign a new deal. Fair play he may not be first choice at Spurs but if you're going to be the on the bench at either club can't blame him for choosing Spurs, and a manager that might value him more

If that's the case and he had anything about him he would stay and prove Koeman wrong. Anyway he's off so everyone bleating on about it (I don't mean you fella ) is immaterial, we just have to get on with it now.

 

[Everton_Gary]

All smoke and mirrors.

Barkley would be wanted by top clubs even if he had two years on his contract.

He's a class player. It's no use comforting ourselves that he's a dud and wont be missed.

Class player? Most class players don't lose possession of the ball in their own half or go missing in big games. David Silvia is a class player, Ross Barkley is not and will not be. You can only use "he's young, he's class, he has potential, etc" so long. And those have been used for three years and nothing has changed. He got called out by the manager and instead of pushing on and improving he hid inside himself and regressed.

 

[davek]

Well it must suck to be a current journo at the Echo then because they get nothing...

At the same time, there really isn't that much to rock the boat about.

The debt has been wiped, and will be reflected in the upcoming accounts.

The stadium groundwork is beginning, though of course there is a long way to go.

Commercially we are improving and on the pitch we're moving in the right direction, but just in a different way to how we probably imagined. That isn't a bad thing, I'm convinced that change is good when you're changing something that hasn't been working to its full potential.

Their role now is to trawl message boards like this and plagiarise ideas and try to reflect back to these forums their own current attitudes on players, managers, owners, the stadium etc etc.

The unspeakable half wits will be reading threads like this now.

*waves*

 

[BlueToff]

Again though, that could have just been to ensure he signs so that the club get a good fee for him when he moves. It's all just guesswork and conspiracy theories I know.

Think it's probably this mate:

- Koeman rates Ross, but wanted more from him. Ross's stats should have been up there with Gylfi's/De bruyne's last year, yet they weren't close

- Ross respects Koeman but probably feels that he might not be the 'star man' anymore

- Ross has options and has chosen to explore those options elsewhere.

- Koeman would rather keep the player but knows that it won't be impossible to get a better player in, so it's not the end of the world

 

[davek]

Class player? Most class players don't lose possession of the ball in their own half or go missing in big games. David Silvia is a class player, Ross Barkley is not and will not be. You can only use "he's young, he's class, he has potential, etc" so long. And those have been used for three years and nothing has changed. He got called out by the manager and instead of pushing on and improving he hid inside himself and regressed.

Silva and Barkley a different types. Barkley can become a Ballack.

Needs at this crucial moment in his career the right club and the right manager to bring it out.

 

[bol-uk]

Class player? Most class players don't lose possession of the ball in their own half or go missing in big games. David Silvia is a class player, Ross Barkley is not and will not be. You can only use "he's young, he's class, he has potential, etc" so long. And those have been used for three years and nothing has changed. He got called out by the manager and instead of pushing on and improving he hid inside himself and regressed.

He is a class player, no doubt

 

[davek]

I'd like to take this moment to officially write him off.

If he'd have buckled down and started hanging out with TD he'd have had a chance.

Spent his summer getting thrown out of hotels in LA and Vegas after that incident in town. Moron.

If he gets 25-30 PL goals this season will he have proven you wrong, or are you just taking a moral stance on his lifestyle?

 

[GwladysPhil]

I'd like to take this moment to officially write him off.

If he'd have buckled down and started hanging out with TD he'd have had a chance.

Spent his summer getting thrown out of hotels in LA and Vegas after that incident in town. Moron.

Thrown out of hotels in vegas and LA?

 

[Everton_Gary]

Silva and Barkley a different types. Barkley can become a Ballack.

Needs at this crucial moment in his career the right club and the right manager to bring it out.

No chance he'll become Ballack. That's world class and Ballack had a brain between his ears. Sorry but I disagree with that idea Dave.

 

[Everton_Gary]

He is a class player, no doubt

See where he stands on that list when he is over 25. Won't be anywhere near those three. They have what he doesn't, a footballing mind. They saw things before they happened. Ross doesn't have that ability. It's ok, some have a football IQ and others don't, Ross is one who doesn't.

 

[Thomasc]

No chance he'll become Ballack. That's world class and Ballack had a brain between his ears. Sorry but I disagree with that idea Dave.

I think he missed an S out

 

[bol-uk]

See where he stands on that list when he is over 25. Won't be anywhere near those three. They have what he doesn't, a footballing mind. They saw things before they happened. Ross doesn't have that ability. It's ok, some have a football IQ and others don't, Ross is one who doesn't.

At 23 his score was 42, a lot higher than you are suggesting