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Dont like the way they always use that term 'bigger clubs'. There are only 3 clubs that are bigger than Everton in English Football one of them being a team he wouldnt ever join.
What they should say is 'better team', just because a team has money and can challenge for honours doesnt make them bigger than us i.e. Man City and Chelsea.

Are you using the big red mentality of trophy wins?

If so, Preston would be a "bigger" club than the majority of premier league clubs. I tell that lot to stop living in the past, I suggest you do the same.

History and tradition are great, but it counts for jack **** in the present day. Were just a over achieving team who struggle to balance the books playing at an aging rundown stadium.

But we won things years ago, were massive like!
 
Dont like the way they always use that term 'bigger clubs'. There are only 3 clubs that are bigger than Everton in English Football one of them being a team he wouldnt ever join.
What they should say is 'better team', just because a team has money and can challenge for honours doesnt make them bigger than us i.e. Man City and Chelsea.

What defines a 'big' club then? From my point of view, I think it's safe to say Chelsea are a much bigger club than us, having just won the european cup, the league in recent years, and they have a much bigger international fanbase.
 
We're rightly mentioned in the Sunderland/Fulham category. This is what we've become under these people.

Agreed. Man City and Chelsea are indeed bigger than us on pretty much every scale now. They dont have our history but we dont have their future.
 
See both sides here, we are in recent history an overacheiving club on a par with fulham and sunderland etc. However we also are the club that has spent the most seasons in the top flight of english football, our list of "firsts" is quite extensive http://www.evertonfc.com/history/everton-firsts.html and to top it off nicely we've held the league trophy for longer than all others, confused? Technically, Everton have won the league trophy 9 times, although there is something else to consider. Everton won the league in 1914-15, before play was suspended and not resumed until 1919-20, meaning the Blues were champions for five years.Everton also won the league in 1939, but again, due to some minor scuffle across the English Channel, play was suspended until 1946-47, handing Everton the trophy to look after for a further six years.This brings Everton’s reign as champions of English football to 20 years, a year longer than United’s proud boast, and two longer than Liverpool’s, although we’re aware that Liverpool try and claim the trophies they won during the second world war as “titlesâ€￾, but as these were the Northern League, then they can do one.So all your banners count for nothing Manchester, come back when it’s 21Read more: http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/...-more-years-than-either-of-you/#ixzz21o4Rt2yq
 

See both sides here, we are in recent history an overacheiving club on a par with fulham and sunderland etc. However we also are the club that has spent the most seasons in the top flight of english football, our list of "firsts" is quite extensive http://www.evertonfc.com/history/everton-firsts.html and to top it off nicely we've held the league trophy for longer than all others, confused? Technically, Everton have won the league trophy 9 times, although there is something else to consider. Everton won the league in 1914-15, before play was suspended and not resumed until 1919-20, meaning the Blues were champions for five years.Everton also won the league in 1939, but again, due to some minor scuffle across the English Channel, play was suspended until 1946-47, handing Everton the trophy to look after for a further six years.This brings Everton’s reign as champions of English football to 20 years, a year longer than United’s proud boast, and two longer than Liverpool’s, although we’re aware that Liverpool try and claim the trophies they won during the second world war as “titlesâ€￾, but as these were the Northern League, then they can do one.So all your banners count for nothing Manchester, come back when it’s 21Read more: http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/...-more-years-than-either-of-you/#ixzz21o4Rt2yq

Hahah, wow, let's face it, you'd have to be pretty brave to claim those unplayed years as ours.
 
See both sides here, we are in recent history an overacheiving club on a par with fulham and sunderland etc. However we also are the club that has spent the most seasons in the top flight of english football, our list of "firsts" is quite extensive http://www.evertonfc.com/history/everton-firsts.html and to top it off nicely we've held the league trophy for longer than all others, confused? Technically, Everton have won the league trophy 9 times, although there is something else to consider. Everton won the league in 1914-15, before play was suspended and not resumed until 1919-20, meaning the Blues were champions for five years.Everton also won the league in 1939, but again, due to some minor scuffle across the English Channel, play was suspended until 1946-47, handing Everton the trophy to look after for a further six years.This brings Everton’s reign as champions of English football to 20 years, a year longer than United’s proud boast, and two longer than Liverpool’s, although we’re aware that Liverpool try and claim the trophies they won during the second world war as “titlesâ€￾, but as these were the Northern League, then they can do one.So all your banners count for nothing Manchester, come back when it’s 21Read more: http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/...-more-years-than-either-of-you/#ixzz21o4Rt2yq

Haha talk about clutching at straws.
 
We're rightly mentioned in the Sunderland/Fulham category. This is what we've become under these people.

Agreed. Man City and Chelsea are indeed bigger than us on pretty much every scale now. They dont have our history but we dont have their future.

These sadly. We won't be the fourth most successful side in English football for much longer, we will be overtaken and end up being 7th, 8th or 9th. Thanks Bill
 

And we were a big club under the previous administration right?

We still had the potential to be. Now we have no chance, short of an unlikely takeover by a billionaire.

I still dont think it's fuly grasped how shattered this organisation of ours is now. It's been hollowed out from the inside out. It's just a facade, behind which there is absolutely no substance. The club exists because its manager knows his way around the Premier League and that secures the injection of tv revenue which acts like a life support machine. We have nothing beyond that. No infrastructure besides that of a staff behind the scenes looking to sell match tickets. The commercial arm of the club is a standing joke and we have no more assets to sell other than those in blue shirts. The CEO and board of directors have no plan to move Everton forward. None whatsoever. Destination Kirkby's rejection killed their hopes of change off stone dead and they've been a zombie board ever since.

There is no hope under this lot. That's why we have a cull of players to cuit wage levels and why we have a situation where the sale of a player who left us two seasons ago is holding up our 'summer transfer activity'.

That's Everton FC as we stand in 2012. I fail to recognose this club as Everton, tbh. It's just a rump of a club that used to be Everton.
 
We still had the potential to be. Now we have no chance, short of an unlikely takeover by a billionaire.

I still dont think it's fuly grasped how shattered this organisation of ours is now. It's been hollowed out from the inside out. It's just a facade, behind which there is absolutely no substance. The club exists because its manager knows his way around the Premier League and that secures the injection of tv revenue which acts like a life support machine. We have nothing beyond that. No infrastructure besides that of a staff behind the scenes looking to sell match tickets. The commercial arm of the club is a standing joke and we have no more assets to sell other than those in blue shirts. The CEO and board of directors have no plan to move Everton forward. None whatsoever. Destination Kirkby's rejection killed their hopes of change off stone dead and they've been a zombie board ever since.

There is no hope under this lot. That's why we have a cull of players to cuit wage levels and why we have a situation where the sale of a player who left us two seasons ago is holding up our 'summer transfer activity'.

That's Everton FC as we stand in 2012. I fail to recognose this club as Everton, tbh. It's just a rump of a club that used to be Everton.


Just out of interest what do you believe the club should be doing commercially that it doesn't do now?
 
Just out of interest what do you believe the club should be doing commercially that it doesn't do now?

Now is too late. They've missed that boat. We had a chance to negotiate in terms of sponsorship, for example, when we were knocking on the door of the CL and getting to a cup final. They ended up signing deals that undervalued us and handcuffed us to 'partners' for a decade in advance on poor terms.
 
Reality is we had the biggest opportunity when we had Rooney, the best English player for 30 years. We should've promised him the earth and built a team around him. Unfortunately, he has too big for us...that summed up Everton's decline.
 
We still had the potential to be. Now we have no chance, short of an unlikely takeover by a billionaire.

I still dont think it's fuly grasped how shattered this organisation of ours is now. It's been hollowed out from the inside out. It's just a facade, behind which there is absolutely no substance. The club exists because its manager knows his way around the Premier League and that secures the injection of tv revenue which acts like a life support machine. We have nothing beyond that. No infrastructure besides that of a staff behind the scenes looking to sell match tickets. The commercial arm of the club is a standing joke and we have no more assets to sell other than those in blue shirts. The CEO and board of directors have no plan to move Everton forward. None whatsoever. Destination Kirkby's rejection killed their hopes of change off stone dead and they've been a zombie board ever since.

There is no hope under this lot. That's why we have a cull of players to cuit wage levels and why we have a situation where the sale of a player who left us two seasons ago is holding up our 'summer transfer activity'.

That's Everton FC as we stand in 2012. I fail to recognose this club as Everton, tbh. It's just a rump of a club that used to be Everton.

Smashing it around today.
 

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