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Liverpool v Everton. 28th Jan at 20.00.

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It least we've got our health eh lads?

*coughs up another ball of slime*

I stopped watching after the Howard foul - couldn't physically watch anymore.

Distin and Coleman's pace in defence was sorely missed last night.
 
moosed said:
I think blaming it in an "off day" is cheap, we lost because of terrible tactics. Playing such a high line with no pace in defence is what cost us. This ones on Roberto.
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Regardless of the cause, it's still an off day. It's not usual for us to lose like that - against any team. It doesn't signal the total collapse of our season and all hope.
 
butters said:
My ratings of the players:

Howard - Has been great this season, but was poor for at least two of the goals last night, especially that ridiculous charge out for Sturridge to casually lob it over him. Seeningly no communication in the entire defence, which is unforgivable!
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Stones - A terrible performance, constantly caught out of position and targetted by the Liverpool strikers and couldn't handle it. Hopefully he'll learn from it and end up a better player for it. A huge learning curve.
Jagielka - Painful performance from somebody who looked less than half fit. Looked like Gazza tracking back when Suarez was cantering away for their fourth.
Alcaraz - Same as Jagielka. Awful.
Baines - Anonymous performance. Has been bog standard all season long.
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Mirallas - Top performance, great effort and never stopped even after we went four down. Real good character from him.
Barkley - Not fit. No influence on game apart from one good effort on goal.
Barry - Game completely passed him by and another couple of soft fouls leading to a predictable yellow card.
McCarthy - Didn't notice him the whole game.
Pienaar - Painful to watch. Slow, cumbersome, looked like he couldn't be arsed which in reality was probably because he was nowhere near full fitness.
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Lukaku - Can't really comment but so unlucky to be taken out by the useless Barry. Thanks for the memories son.

Subs:
Naismith - lol
Osman - No worse than any other of the central midfielders
McGeady - Had no chance to affect the game.

Manager:
Martinez - Looks to me like he picked far too many players who were nowhere near being fit. Jagielka, Alcaraz, Pienaar, Barkley. We were all made up with them playing, but had we known they were going to be so sluggish we'd have wanted them left out. You can't play half a team who can barely run as they're knackered and need to recover from injuries. Needs to decide whether to keep up the pretence that we have money to spend or come out and tell the fans what they already know which is we're broke and nobody is coming in.

A terrible night.
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I dont think you're going to get an argument over any of that.
 
MartSlinger said:
Why cant we say an 'off day'? Have you seen that happen to Everton this season? No. Will you see it happen to Everton again? Probably not. So that to me defines an off day.

Anyway, onto something thats bugged me. Obviously it wont get talked about because of them winning 4-0, but am i the only one who thinks their penalty actually wasnt a penalty? Sterling jumped over Howard, never got touched, and got a penalty. Thats 3 (non)penalties in 3 Premier League games for them.
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Looked to me like Sterling had lost control of the ball, shouldn't have been a pen IMO, same thing happened with Barry's booking as well.
 

cjuk87 said:
Sorry but Pienaar didn't try, he didn't look bothered, just sulked. Rightly taken off at HT
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yeeeees....he just didn't try and sulked.

Maybe he was not fit enough in the end, and that lack of sharpness disrupted his normal game which is taking it in to feet and turning on it. Ball was nipped off him every time.

But no, go straight to the most negative reasoning.
 
Sincere commiserations fellas. I genuinely think it was a one off. I was surprised to see one or two names starting who I thought were supposed to be injured. You can still finish above them and I think you might.
 
Well I'm getting rid of that bt sports aka lfc channel Carnt stand the lot of them on that chanel the ref was a joke tonight like he is every time he refs us he was giving yellow cards out for nothing free kicks for nothing when liverpool got a freekck he was so quick to blow his whistle but any freekck for us you could see he had to force himself to blow I carnt stand the man (ref) not blaming just him but are defence was also a shambles well supose we have to move on but that will be hard to shake that out of my memory for a while worst derby I have ever seen in my life. GUTTED
 
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Mikey_Fitzgerald said:
I thought Stones made a lot of good tackles and did some decent work down the wing
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When faced one on one Stones was never beat, always found himself in space on the wing too. However, he was caught out for both of Sturridges goals unfortunately. But, im putting more blame on Howard for their third. He's basically told Sturridge to lob him by coming off his line, so he did.
 
Forgot about that penalty!. When its 0-0 after 120 mins in a World Cup game, England are toast in the resulting penalty shoot out. After watching the Sunderland v Man U debacle, we can now add Sturridge's name to the list of English players who can't score from the spot.
PS: he was pretty lethal in open play though!
 
MartSlinger said:
When faced one on one Stones was never beat, always found himself in space on the wing too. However, he was caught out for both of Sturridges goals unfortunately. But, im putting more blame on Howard for their third. He's basically told Sturridge to lob him by coming off his line, so he did.
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Think Lukaku had a similar chance against WBA...but fluffed his lob
 

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