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2021/22 Lucas Digne

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Digne is a very good footballer, but he's never been a great defender.

There is room for improvement in every position as it happens.
See how this plays out.
 
"moral authority"? We hadn't won in, what, 10 matches? If my boss was making decisions that I could clearly see where going poorly I would tell him from my POV what I think is going wrong.

Let's put it this way, would you rather the player shut up and lost matches and just collected a paycheck or would you rather a player actually care what the results are and make suggestions for the team to get better?
You haven't a clue what went down, and you pretend that Digne the Wise, with his superior knowledge bravely accosted this terrible manager concerning team tactics and paid the price. Where or rather why do you invent such trash?
I heard Digne is a terrible timekeeper, and was always late for training. Another "reliable source" says he was having it off with a female club employee. Nobody, not you nor I have a clue what went down The navy call it scuttlebutt.
 
He’s is being sacrificed … simple. … easy to sell , out of form and now a row . Will be gone early in the window allowing some funds to strengthen .. someone has to go so for me not the worst choice …
 

I agree but we don't know the full extent do we? Allan apparently also had a run in with the manager prior to the Arsenal game yet was selected to play - maybe Digne called him a FSW and stormed off out of training?

Maybe its true Dignes agent has been leaking stories about the manager/club to the athletic and Benitez simply doesn't trust him anymore?

You can't be slamming the manager (or Digne) until you know the full fachts.
Or Rafael has leaked the rift so that he can sell him
If Richarlison Gray Doucoure Allan Godfrey can all follow Benitez’s instructions, why can’t Digne?
Digne is an attacking full back, Rafael wants him to be a defender first. It’s a clash of ideology
 
You haven't a clue what went down, and you pretend that Digne the Wise, with his superior knowledge bravely accosted this terrible manager concerning team tactics and paid the price. Where or rather why do you invent such trash?
I heard Digne is a terrible timekeeper, and was always late for training. Another "reliable source" says he was having it off with a female club employee. Nobody, not you nor I have a clue what went down The navy call it scuttlebutt.
First of all, you've got some anger issues. Work on them.

Secondly, I simply replied to what someone else's assertion was. That Digne has no authority to question OH WISE AND KNOWLEDGABLE Fat Arse. He absolutely does. "Why do I invent this trash?" Mate, seriously, have a word with yourself. You'll be much happier eventually.
 
Hmmm, Arteta drops his captain for indiscipline. Big crisis? No. It is normal practice when employees go against their bosses. Arteta showed admirable managerial qualities telling the prying media scumbags to go away and invent their own stories. Of course here at Everton, or I should say here on this Everton fans forum we have a few with an agenda which steers them toward inventing a crisis, any crisis to get at the manager. Their new hero and victim, Digne serves their agenda. How dare the manager exclude him.
The really fascinating thing about this is, by now, other than Kenwright and Moshiri, the common denominator in our abject failure over the last five years has been a select group of these players. They have failed manager after manager. Now that we have a manager who if he is going to go down will go down on his own merits, it is clear that people either shape up or ship out. The simple unpalatable fact is that none of our players are indispensable. None of them so outstanding as to be irreplaceable. Most of them have, essentially, failed. This is all part of a long process. The Raxative will go through this squad like a dose over the coming six months. He's simply picking on the sacred cows at first (Brands, James, Digne), but I have no doubt the Holgates and Iwobis are for the door when the opportunity arises.

The other thing to remember is that when people say we shouldn't be putting the future of the club in the hands of one pig-headed man, the response to that is we shouldn't be putting the future of the club in the hands of any player ever. These guys will walk out of our club one day. It makes no sense to back a Digne or a Richarlison when they will bid farewell to us just as swiftly as Rooney did, or Arteta did, or Lescott did. Or, dare I say it, as Carlo did. The Raxative is probably a different case. Everything about this job suits him. He wants it so badly he has no compunction in alienating all that needs to be alienated. We're in for a strife-heavy next six months, that's for sure. But any manager will be judged on his own decisions. Whatever the rights and wrongs of each individual case, Benitez will stand or fall on his own decisions without concerning himself about noses being put out of joint. At a club where NOBODY from the owner down to the academy has covered themselves in glory, this is precisely the type of dose that the body politic of this decrepit club must endure.

2-0 to Palace today, by the way.
 
The really fascinating thing about this is, by now, other than Kenwright and Moshiri, the common denominator in our abject failure over the last five years has been a select group of these players. They have failed manager after manager.
There's precisely 1 player who was a starter at the club 5 years ago who's still here now. So unless you're saying our entire malaise is down to Seamus Coleman, what you've said there is nonsensical.

Other than him, DCL and Holgate were here, but given that 1 is arguably our best/most dangerous player and the other barely features.....
 

He's fallen out with one player like.

SAF fell out with tons over the years didnt see Utd fans crying for him to be booted.
Two.

Are you comparing Rafael to fergie now? Surely not
a soft manager is what we have endured since Moyes........worked didn't it? Manager is the boss in my book
Just a load of bollocks that init, Carlo and koeman weren't soft, koeman especially.
 
There's precisely 1 player who was a starter at the club 5 years ago who's still here now. So unless you're saying our entire malaise is down to Seamus Coleman, what you've said there is nonsensical.

Other than him, DCL and Holgate were here, but given that 1 is arguably our best/most dangerous player and the other barely features.....
Multiple players currently at the club have played under multiple managers. That's the point. At some point, the penny needs to drop that the players have just not been good enough. We have decided that the managers haven't been, but people also need to accept that the players haven't been. Which is why backing a player over a manager makes little sense - especially so when that player will, naturally enough, drop us for a better offer should it come. The overarching point is that there is almost nothing at the club currently worth defending. If somebody is going to come in and put a pile of noses out of joint, I don't see the harm in it. It might even, whisper it, lead to the hope of change.
 
"moral authority"? We hadn't won in, what, 10 matches? If my boss was making decisions that I could clearly see where going poorly I would tell him from my POV what I think is going wrong.

Let's put it this way, would you rather the player shut up and lost matches and just collected a paycheck or would you rather a player actually care what the results are and make suggestions for the team to get better?

It depends. If the manager expects you to perform in a certain way and follow instructions but you go off and do your own thing, then you don't have a leg to stand on. Whether you think you're right or not.
 
You haven't a clue what went down, and you pretend that Digne the Wise, with his superior knowledge bravely accosted this terrible manager concerning team tactics and paid the price. Where or rather why do you invent such trash?
I heard Digne is a terrible timekeeper, and was always late for training. Another "reliable source" says he was having it off with a female club employee. Nobody, not you nor I have a clue what went down The navy call it scuttlebutt.
Maybe it's Denise being as she been told to look for another job ?
 

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