Man City fan lets rip...

[Pilks]

I honestly don't get the slagging off the author of this piece is getting in some quarters here

We devote reams and reams of, well, screen space, on here to (rightly) criticising the sickening pro-LFC bias in the media. Because yes, it does matter. It keeps their profile artificially high, makes them a more attractive package to bandwagon jumping fans and the huge overseas market, and can't help but boost their confidence. It also has to affect the officials. We call this out, yet when someone from another club does it, he's just 'whingeing' and we 'couldn't care less' if it was us.

Well sorry, I care, it annoys the hell out of me and I applaud anyone who will stand up and say it. This guff about City already being fairly praised after they miraculously stayed clear with an incredible winning run to beat out the 'greatest runners-up ever' should pipe down right now. They were grudgingly patted on the head by a media world devastated by their impudence in puncturing the Red Dream. The runners up got more praise than the Champions, for their incredible points total, which is bizarre behaviour considering they finished BELOW City.

Some of the criticism of City in here on this thread is teetering on the edge of the phrase 'net spend' to be honest. Careful, now.

The piece is bang on. Bite me.

 

[evo1878]

Fair question- for me the morals of the rule & the motives of FFP are very questionable, but so is the handball rule, but if you sign up to league / cup competition you agree to live with them.

In city’s case, I would say sponsorship deals from state owned airlines, mobile companies, which are way above market value and happen to be from the same state that owns the club would fit the bill, especially given the club accepted they were guilty and ironically paid the fines as punishment

Are you overlooking USM Finch Farm? I’m not complaining

 

[MrGrumpy]

Fair question- for me the morals of the rule & the motives of FFP are very questionable, but so is the handball rule, but if you sign up to league / cup competition you agree to live with them.

In city’s case, I would say sponsorship deals from state owned airlines, mobile companies, which are way above market value and happen to be from the same state that owns the club would fit the bill, especially given the club accepted they were guilty and ironically paid the fines as punishment

FFP is a load of balls no other business in the world stops you spending money on it.
Yeah it might seem unfair but that life.

FFP is like winning the lottery but then told you can only spend as much as the drug addict family down the road

 

[number4.]

FFP is a load of balls no other business in the world stops you spending money on it.
Yeah it might seem unfair but that life.

FFP is like winning the lottery but then told you can only spend as much as the drug addict family down the road

Well no - there are competition laws in hundreds of industries, regulation in banking, Taxi fares are regulated

There needs to be some sort of limits, but I would tend of agree that FFP isnt the solution & the motives behind it are very very questionable.

 

[barneygumble]

I visit plenty of sites of other clubs and you get the same old whinges about how the media hates their club and favours their rivals. It's just so tiresome.

As for City, well imo they're only just slightly less odious than the RS and post some right nasty stuff about us and the city of Liverpool in general over on Bluemoon.

They're in the running for everything yet seem intent on looking for things to cryarse over. F them.

Genuinely believe it's just a weird Mancunian complex.

They call us "dippers", despite Manchester being the worst place in the country for homelessness, and having a significantly higher crime rate.

I don't like Manchester as a place, because i find with a broad scouse accent, i'm often made to feel quite uncomfortable. Whatever their reasons for the hatred... I'm assuming it's just plain jealousy? Is beyond a joke, just enjoy you're life lol

That Bluemoon is just a cess pit.

(Not all Mancs are idiots)

 

[Death]

The current love in with leeds still amazes me.
Good football,I hear.
Leicester and Villa play decent football and dont get the love.

They get a lot of international support. 3 main clubs around Dublin is Liverpool, Man United. And even though Leeds have been yo yoing around the bottom leagues for years you still seen leeds crests on cars going around at a high rate. I'd say they are 3rd most supported over here.

 

[Death]

The Scots have a term for how Liverpool and United are covered in the media

They call it Succulent Lamb Journalism

Thats something I could go for tbf.

 

[hallamblue]

I suppose the issue for some people is the "sports washing" that Man City and PSG represent. Rich people with dubious sources of wealth owning football clubs is nothing new, twas ever thus. However, entire countries owning football clubs, who have dubious human rights records is a different matter entirely to some people. I'm not saying this is why people whinge about City buying the league, it isn't, it's jealousy the same as when Man Utd or Blackburn Rovers did it. Man Utd used to buy everyone else's best player before the television money evened things up a bit. But for me, being owned by a questionable Middle East dictatorship does sour things a bit, although I do love watching Man City play.

 

[MrGrumpy]

I suppose the issue for some people is the "sports washing" that Man City and PSG represent. Rich people with dubious sources of wealth owning football clubs is nothing new, twas ever thus. However, entire countries owning football clubs, who have dubious human rights records is a different matter entirely to some people. I'm not saying this is why people whinge about City buying the league, it isn't, it's jealousy the same as when Man Utd or Blackburn Rovers did it. Man Utd used to buy everyone else's best player before the television money evened things up a bit. But for me, being owned by a questionable Middle East dictatorship does sour things a bit, although I do love watching Man City play.

The owner of Chelsea is dodgy as well.

 

[hallamblue]

The owner of Chelsea is dodgy as well.

Yes as I said in my post. But they aren't owned by the Russian state.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Even when the RS were breaking world records for Van Dijk and Allison the journo's didn't bat an eyelid and defended those sums of money by declaring that the RS had always done things the "right way" but reluctantly had to spend just to keep up with Man Ciy.

 

[Thomasc]

He’s 100% correct of course.
I’m absolutely sick of Sky and BT.
If I wanted to hear their regular diatribe I’d subscribe to LFC TV as that’s all they ever go on about.
The media punditry in this country is shockingly and sickeningly bias towards those weird cult shithouses from across the park.

 

[PaulPowersTash]

The interesting thing is that everybody and I mean everybody knows that City failed FFP in 2014 (for over spending on players). Liverpool have also failed FFP but it never, ever gets a mention...
As doesn't the money they have spent on players.
It was interesting reading the papers over the weekend. The usual 'look at the cost of the City bench' had it's weekly airing. Cancelo was a £60m substitute. No he wasn't. The total Cancelo deal was £60m but Danilo went the other way and was officially valued at £33m. Cancelo cost £27m. That's not a bad net spend and much less than United paid for Donny van de Beek. Same with Ruben Dias who we are told cost £63m. No he didn't. Otamendi went the other way and was valued at £13m in the deal. Dias cost £50m. So we got both Cancelo & Dias for less than United paid for Harry Maguire. That is some pretty shrewd transfer dealings. When was the last time you listened to a commentary on a Liverpool or United game and the cost of Allison & VVD was mentioned or Pogba and Maguire? You probably can't remember because it doesn't happen. Funny that eh?

 

[roydo]

The interesting thing is that everybody and I mean everybody knows that City failed FFP in 2014 (for over spending on players). Liverpool have also failed FFP but it never, ever gets a mention...
As doesn't the money they have spent on players.
It was interesting reading the papers over the weekend. The usual 'look at the cost of the City bench' had it's weekly airing. Cancelo was a £60m substitute. No he wasn't. The total Cancelo deal was £60m but Danilo went the other way and was officially valued at £33m. Cancelo cost £27m. That's not a bad net spend and much less than United paid for Donny van de Beek. Same with Ruben Dias who we are told cost £63m. No he didn't. Otamendi went the other way and was valued at £13m in the deal. Dias cost £50m. So we got both Cancelo & Dias for less than United paid for Harry Maguire. That is some pretty shrewd transfer dealings. When was the last time you listened to a commentary on a Liverpool or United game and the cost of Allison & VVD was mentioned or Pogba and Maguire? You probably can't remember because it doesn't happen. Funny that eh?

I am astonished you have such a triffic team having paid so little for it.

 

[Brisan123]

Hi looses all credibility when he says they are not state run and instead owned by an "individal" - it is that very brainwashing that gets them into this mess.

my two cents for what its worth....

I should say from the outset, i've always had a soft spot for Man City, I was bright to Maine Road as a kid and was delighted to see them get back into top flight football, but I was not a fan to the take over and the transition the club went through as a result. They lost a lot of their fans, who rightly questioned the deal and with that the soul of the club was damaged although clear not eradicated, which is great for the club and new owners.

Their achievements since have been incredible, they have invested strategically and have 5 leagues to show for it, but it doesnt change the fact that they have achieved this through financial doping, they have accepted their guilt and paid the fines (twice now), they did their deal with the devil (which is fine) but the consequence of it is the asterix beside any if their achievements.

Their reality is the media, the public in general and the football fraternity, will never give them the credit they deserve, but that's the trade off they have for the way they have gained their success, they are a showpony for an arab state & they are treated that way, their wins will be forgotten by history, we dont see Premier league years when they win leagues and their biggest moment "Aguerooooo" is remembered as much for costing United is a league as it is City's win.

Where for me this gets interesting is the players, they also dont get recognition outside the club, that again some of them deserve, David silva should be talked about like Scholes, Lampard etc, he is not. De Bruyne doesnt get the credit her deserves, again this is the trade off for representing an Arab state.

I mentioned in another thread recently the "emthyhad" jibes as the epitome of the challange that city have, the owners are desperate to portray an institution like Barca or United, but the reality is they have resorted to falsifying their gate numbers (Source - GMP reports) to give themselves some credibility, it's a desperate move from an ownership, who offer "influencers" free admission in exchange for instagram posts.

Ultimately, your man is right, there is apathy towards them, the media aren't bothered, because they cant get ratings when they are on, the papers wont do an 8 page pull out because it wont sell and history will forget their achievements or at a minimum belittle them, but that is the price of dancing with the devil the have. I wouldnt want to see us go the same route, even if it it meant 5 titles in 10 years.

They are a far better club than Liverpool in all respects
How they act with their local community
Their players
Their manager
Their style of football
Their fans
How they act in public with fans and the media
Did I mention their fans
99% OF Liverpool FANS ARE ENTITLED KNOBS