Marcel Brands

[ArtetaMoney]

That would be good with estimated values / price if sold today added to the ones still at the club

I think Walsh might come out around evens

He was deemed a massive failure (I was one of them), as well.

 

[Efcjake]

Depends how you view it. Personally I look at it that we have £10 that we earmark to spend on wages for the next two years but someone says nah, keep it. We haven’t been given a fresh £10 note but that £10 now goes to be spent elsewhere which is essentially extra budget.

If the loan fee of 7m just covers wages but I’m not sure what he’s on.

This is the most positive view of that deal you could make.

It's been shocking business.

We tied up around 30 million and however much in wages with nearly zero return for the team these past 2 years. We have then had to invest signing on fees into 2 veteran free agents to make up for the waste of money that Kean was 2 years ago. We still haven't got that money back into our accounts and won't see it back until 4 years after the lad was signed. From a cash flow perspective it's horrific.

 

[davek]

….I thought this is exactly what you’ve been asking for, a succession of Managers in control of transfers?

Forget his title, Brands isn’t a DoF in the true sense of the word. As you continually post, players are being brought in by Manager. Brands is an Administrator, I’d have thought you’d be quite happy with that.

I want Everton to spend £1.8M?

Your attempt at making a case for this Dutch divvy is ridiculous. He hasn;t worlked out. Just accept that..or continue to attempt to score points off me. The choice is yours.

 

[Nymzee]

This is the most positive view of that deal you could make.

It's been shocking business.

We tied up around 30 million and however much in wages with nearly zero return for the team these past 2 years. We have then had to invest signing on fees into 2 veteran free agents to make up for the waste of money that Kean was 2 years ago. We still haven't got that money back into our accounts and won't see it back until 4 years after the lad was signed. From a cash flow perspective it's horrific.

Here he is, the grim reaper.

 

[Eggs]

I want Everton to spend £1.8M?

Your attempt at making a case for this Dutch divvy is ridiculous. He hasn;t worlked out. Just accept that..or continue to attempt to score points off me. The choice is yours.

….i think the process is a shambles, not the appointment.

We know the Manager at Everton acquires the players. Brands makes suggestions which are sometimes endorsed but nothing happens without the green light from the Manager. That is the defined process.

Managers have the power not Brands.

 

[Efcjake]

Here he is, the grim reaper.

We've tied up nearly 30 million for 4 years and in return we have had Josh King and Salomon Rondon.

I'll have to get Brand's address to send him the Thank You card. lollollol

 

[Nymzee]

We've tied up nearly 30 million for 4 years and in return we have had Josh King and Salomon Rondon.

I'll have to get Brand's address to send him the Thank You card. lollollol

I'll PM you it.

 

[d34noj]

….i think the process is a shambles, not the appointment.

We know the Manager at Everton acquires the players. Brands makes suggestions which are sometimes endorsed but nothing happens without the green light from the Manager. That is the defined process.

Managers have the power not Brands.

Which is why we are only signing the dross Benitez has either previously worked with or been linked with.

I'd hazard a guess that deals were lined up but rebuffed by the FSW as he hasn't worked with them.

 

[jinkyali]

Which is why we are only signing the dross Benitez has either previously worked with or been linked with.

I'd hazard a guess that deals were lined up but rebuffed by the FSW as he hasn't worked with them.

Where did the manager work with Begovic and Gray before Everton mate?

 

[d34noj]

Where did the manager work with Begovic and Gray before Everton mate?

Both linked with him when he was at Newcastle.

 

[davek]

….i think the process is a shambles, not the appointment.

We know the Manager at Everton acquires the players. Brands makes suggestions which are sometimes endorsed but nothing happens without the green light from the Manager. That is the defined process.

Managers have the power not Brands.

That wasn't the case at the begining when he arrived here, he had much more of a hands on role, and the fact managers are having more say in who comes in underlines his incompetency.

The man is not capable of doing what he was e,ployed to do, He is sidelined over managerial appointments, the style of football we play inder successive managers, and increasingly in choice of players.

The process is a shambles because he has got the character or atlent to carry out the role. And the role itself needs scrapping.

 

[Toffeelover]

Give over with the recrimnations now and look to the future that is the important thing, winning ames moving up the table ,. etc, etc.

 

[Eggs]

…I’m not defending Brands in the least, indeed I have no strong views on his performance but I’ve become convinced the transfer system at Everton is very much centred on the Manager & even the owner.

Brands is on record as saying he cannot bring a player in without Benitez’s approval. Let that sink in, he doesn’t bring players in unless he gets a green light from the Manager. Meanwhile the Manager and owner can bring in players.

The likes of @davek ‘loudly‘ posts that it’s all Brands fault. He selectively notes most of the good signings are down to the Manager whilst the bad ones are Brands. He even claimed DCL as being a Walsh piece of business when it’s known Unsworth went directly to the board and recommended the purchase.

So, the process as reported is; the Manager & Owner bring in players whilst the DoF recommends players that are only acquired if Benitez/Ancelotti et al agree. We can guess who’s responsible for identifying a target but we don’t really know.

At Everton the power of transfers rests with the Manager. Those who argue for a transfer process led by the Manager have got it at Everton.

Folk also argue about our lack of transfer income, but this isn’t down to sales negotiations, this is down to purchase negotiations. It’s not rocket science that ordinary players on extraordinary contracts are impossible to shift.

The assumption is Brands puts them on big contracts, I have no idea if he does, it would be good to know. We have a DoF but not in the sense other clubs employ one.

As I say, I’m not defending him but I don’t think he is as empowered as some think in the transfer process at Everton.

 

[davek]

…I’m not defending Brands in the least, indeed I have no strong views on his performance but I’ve become convinced the transfer system at Everton is very much centred on the Manager & even the owner.

Brands is on record as saying he cannot bring a player in without Benitez’s approval. Let that sink in, he doesn’t bring players in unless he gets a green light from the Manager. Meanwhile the Manager and owner can bring in players.

The likes of @davek ‘loudly‘ posts that it’s all Brands fault. He selectively notes most of the good signings are down to the Manager whilst the bad ones are Brands. He even claimed DCL as being a Walsh piece of business when it’s known Unsworth went directly to the board and recommended the purchase.

So, the process as reported is; the Manager & Owner bring in players whilst the DoF recommends players that are only acquired if Benitez/Ancelotti et al agree. We can guess who’s responsible for identifying a target but we don’t really know.

At Everton the power of transfers rests with the Manager. Those who argue for a transfer process led by the Manager have got it at Everton.

Folk also argue about our lack of transfer income, but this isn’t down to sales negotiations, this is down to purchase negotiations. It’s not rocket science that ordinary players on extraordinary contracts are impossible to shift.

The assumption is Brands puts them on big contracts, I have no idea if he does, it would be good to know. We have a DoF but not in the sense other clubs employ one.

As I say, I’m not defending him but I don’t think he is as empowered as some think in the transfer process at Everton.

If the buck stops with the DoF as @GrandOldTeam has stated, how do you think he's performed since he arrived?

8th 12th and 10th, and we have a situation where the finances are that out of control we spent £1.8M in a summer transfer window.

We dont have a consistent style of play and that's down to his apparant inability to have impact on who is hired as manager.

I'm really only stating the facts here. The feller has failed. It is a simple enough conclusion to come to given what we see before us.

 

[BlueToff]

Monchi held a presser the other day. Spurs doing this with Paratici.



It's really not hard to do.

But then again, what's the point in trying to explain a plan when there clearly isn't one.