2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

[Thomasc]

We seem to go around the houses a lot on here, so let’s nust keep it simple as I’m pretty sure not many on here are highly qualified football coaches or analysts.

The most overriding factors are, we don’t win many football matches and our current form is bottom 3. We can’t keep a clean sheet ever, even at home to a side like Lincoln and we are that bad we conceded 3 at Millwall, which suggests we are just simply on the slide and the slide needs halting and fast.

 

[D410]

He hasn't put all of the blame on the players, though. This is the thing. He is allowed to say that the players need to be aggressive because he's spot on. At the end of the day he can't head the ball for them.

He's also said that they are all responsible and need to work hard to sort it out. I don't see what's wrong with the comments. He's clearly not blind to the issues, the question is whether he's capable of sorting them. At the moment the answer is definitely not, but it'd be helped if our players weren't massive bottle jobs as well.

He was not Capable at Hull.
He was not Capable at Watford
He is not Capable at Everton.

I don,t know why we have have to find excuses when the truth has been starring us in the face since we hired him - Time will not fix this.

 

[Gilbert..]

That's a weird argument. Why are headed goals worse than any other type? Our overall defensive record is just average not terrible. I don't think we look generally awful defensively, we just look completely inept from set pieces. Very harsh to expand that to the whol edefensive set up in my opinion.

Which he seems totaly void of any idea how to address. Its a huge part of the game. At the point now where every cross into our box you're expecting to concede a goal.
It cant go on. Its a simple as that. He either sorts it or he has to go.

 

[Simon baker]

Really good article by McNulty.

Essentially, get the set pieces bit right, and play a mixture of the young lads and the good signings that himself and brands made the summer just gone. The rest is up to Brands to fix, and what a mess Koeman and Walsh have left him with.

If he gets the set piece issue ironed out and the lads continue to show the passion they showed last night, there’s no reason to bin him off. I’m up for a period of stability for a change, think it’ll pay off in the long run.

Problem is so many have been saying we need to play 3 in midfield for what is approaching months & he is only just starting to realise. We have wasted 2 months playing 4 up front and crucifying the 2 in midfield & putting uneccessary pressure on the defence.

He flogged Gomez to death over Christmas and has appeared to only use Davies when he hed no choice.

My issue all season has been is Sigurdsson playing so high under instruction or does he have the freedom to do what he wants as him playing too high kills us.
Either he isn’t following managers orders or the managers orders are wrong.

 

[Gilbert..]

We seem to go around the houses a lot on here, so let’s nust keep it simple as I’m pretty sure not many on here are highly qualified football coaches or analysts.

The most overriding factors are, we don’t win many football matches and our current form is bottom 3. We can’t keep a clean sheet ever, even at home to a side like Lincoln and we are that bad we conceded 3 at Millwall, which suggests we are just simply on the slide and the slide needs halting and fast.

The image i will have in my head about this season was that last millwall goal. 90th minute. 4 millwall players lining up on the 6 yard box ready to hit the ball into the net. FOUR....and not an Everton player in sight. They were in "their Zone"
Its a shambles.

 

[Lanolin]

Which he seems totaly void of any idea how to address. Its a huge part of the game. At the point now where every cross into our box you're expecting to concede a goal.
It cant go on. Its a simple as that. He either sorts it or he has to go.

I'm not disputing that though, i'm simply saying that making out conceding a header on the first day of the season when we were down to 10 men and had our 5th choice centre half on the pitch is a reflection on our overall ability to defend is rather unfair.

 

[evertonarntwe]

That's a weird argument. Why are headed goals worse than any other type? Our overall defensive record is just average not terrible. I don't think we look generally awful defensively, we just look completely inept from set pieces. Very harsh to expand that to the whole defensive set up in my opinion.

because general man marking from balls into the box is pathetic

a set play, we all know we cannot defend..., but in reality is someone crossing the ball from the wing and us conceded a header from this cross any different from a corner? stats will say yes it is ( ie not a set play ) but it's more or less, our CB's losing his man and them scoring a header

 

[evertonarntwe]

I'm not disputing that though, i'm simply saying that making out conceding a header on the first day of the season when we were down to 10 men and had our 5th choice centre half on the pitch is a reflection on our overall ability to defend is rather unfair.

come one lad I was just making the point RE the first day, I can go through and do headed goals from crosses if you want

even from the top of my mind, we conceded 2 headed goals against city away from 2 of the smallest players on the pitch, the CB's are genuinely terrible and aren't being set up to defend properly

 

[Lob]

It's the Goodison happy clappers who are keeping him in a job.

Fancy giving them a standing ovation simply because they did a bit of running last night. The applause was as if we'd just turned them over. Embarrassing. Until the fans voice their concerns he'll remain our manager.

Shambles.

Yeah you couldn't make it up. Got beaten 2 - 0 at home , furthered our embarrassment with abysmal defending of set pieces which should have been fixed 25 games ago and registered just 1 shot on target. The only difference between last night and the past 2 months is that they tried a bit harder which ironically is only what they should be doing every single match anyway. We still need to score 3 goals every match to try and win a game which is kinda difficult when you are only capable of 1 shot on target. Standing ovation and the Everton website, Silva and the players are giving it confidence and stronger this and energetic and positiveness that and carrying on like we have won and have something to be proud of.

We have now won just 1 out of the last 7 premier league matches at home which is absolutely disgraceful. I have no confidence that this team and Manager can win any game of football for the rest of the season.

Shambles is spot on.

 

[nsno-chris]

He hasn't put all of the blame on the players, though. This is the thing. He is allowed to say that the players need to be aggressive because he's spot on. At the end of the day he can't head the ball for them.

He's also said that they are all responsible and need to work hard to sort it out. I don't see what's wrong with the comments. He's clearly not blind to the issues, the question is whether he's capable of sorting them. At the moment the answer is definitely not, but it'd be helped if our players weren't massive bottle jobs as well.

Fair enough, still negates my point that even some of the fans are blaming the players for switching off and saying we need better.

I believe it’s down to training and a comparison of sorts would justify that it’s his failure. Yes players make errors, it’s part of the game. When it’s the same errors that have been evident at every club he’s managed in England then the figure surely needs to be pointed in his direction with his setup being a prime problem

 

[BernieH]

I do think there is psychological effects going on now with regards to set pieces, it will be on the minds of the defenders and is probably contributing to it carrying on. Sports psychology and all that jazz.

 

[Lanolin]

because general man marking from balls into the box is pathetic

a set play, we all know we cannot defend..., but in reality is someone crossing the ball from the wing and us conceded a header from this cross any different from a corner? stats will say yes it is ( ie not a set play ) but it's more or less, our CB's losing his man and them scoring a header

But what's the relevance of it being a header? Why would that be a sign of an inability to organise a defence but a centre half not tracking a run on to a through ball wouldn't? It's just shoehorning stuff in to the fit the narrative. Not all the set piece goals we've conceded have been headers, so are we taking them out now? Or do they have to stay in to make your point stand? You either look at our overall defensive record (which is average) or you isolate specifics like our record at set pieces (which is terrible). You can't really look at anything that makes it look worse and lump it all in together to prove a point.

I said the same yesterday, there's enough real issues to have a go at Silva about without just making stuff up/skewing facts to make it sound worse.

 

[evertonarntwe]

But what's the relevance of it being a header? Why would that be a sign of an inability to organise a defence but a centre half not tracking a run on to a through ball wouldn't? It's just shoehorning stuff in to the fit the narrative. Not all the set piece goals we've conceded have been headers, so are we taking them out now? Or do they have to stay in to make your point stand? You either look at our overall defensive record (which is average) or you isolate specifics like our record at set pieces (which is terrible). You can't really look at anything that makes it look worse and lump it all in together to prove a point.

I said the same yesterday, there's enough real issues to have a go at Silva about without just making stuff up/skewing facts to make it sound worse.

because it's mostly headers, but my point as I have just said twice, is the general man marking of the players scoring, whether that be a set play or a general cross into the box.

I have highlighted in bold, italic and underlined the main point in case for the third time you don't get my main point

 

[BlueToff]

Fair enough, still negates my point that even some of the fans are blaming the players for switching off and saying we need better.

I believe it’s down to training and a comparison of sorts would justify that it’s his failure. Yes players make errors, it’s part of the game. When it’s the same errors that have been evident at every club he’s managed in England then the figure surely needs to be pointed in his direction with his setup being a prime problem

Yep, I agree. I won't argue that he's good at it because the evidence is there that he isn't.

But I just don't think the set up is the only issue.

It's an interesting point about Gracia, that's for sure.

 

[BlueToff]

They have a 17 day break where they will no doubt be taken on a freebie winter holiday. I've never had a 17 day break from some form of work since I left school.

They need to drill free kicks and corners 5 or 6 hours each week. We concede for fun but never score from them. Recipe for disaster. It will get him sacked if he doesn't sort it out.

Ah, sorry, I thought you meant like an office hours 9-5 break! Got ya.

Yeh, I agree, I'm sure it'll be a training camp and I'm sure one of the things worked on will be set-pieces.