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@nsno-chris he didn't actually 'wait' until we were 1-0 down, btw.

He had Davies ready to come on. The ball didn't go out of play and we went behind from that mistake.

I know we've seen it all before, like, and I agree entirely he should have made the change sooner. To then scrap the change in a panic was also poor.

Oh yeah forgot about that. Still bet my house that it would have been Gomes off Davies on and the same formation and way of playing
 
@Wat Tyler Arsenal have a far better squad than us, and they have two world class strikers who have made them look far better than they've played in most games.

Look at their game against us. They weren't the better side for large chunks. Yet one half chance and one chance that was blatantly offside (like, 5 yards offside) and they took them.

I’m not comparing Arsenal to everton I am comparing Arsenal to last season Arsenal. Last season Arsenal qualified for Europe and had a good Europa run, this year they are on course to better that.
Last season Everton had had three managers, some of the worst selections and performances I have ever seen (Atalanta, home and away, Southampton away, Arsenal home etc etc etc), and here we are with a manager who knew he had the job from January, had the players to work with all summer, had £80m of talent brought in, and he is reverting to his MO : start well, fade fast.

And what is annoying is some blues are taking umbrage with the fact fans aren’t happy with this.
 
Oh yeah forgot about that. Still bet my house that it would have been Gomes off Davies on and the same formation and way of playing

Oh yeh, it was the change. But in hindsight he should have stuck with that (at that stage) rather than do Bernard and go 4-4-nothing-2 like he did. He panicked.

We lost all momentum in the middle because we had Gylfi dropping deep and then nobody dropping into the space between the lines. It was crap.

The change - like you say - needed to be at HT, and I was crying out for it too. Bernard on, DCL off. Rich up top. Get back to a system that worked - and it did work during our decent run.
 
I’m not comparing Arsenal to everton I am comparing Arsenal to last season Arsenal. Last season Arsenal qualified for Europe and had a good Europa run, this year they are on course to better that.
Last season Everton had had three managers, some of the worst selections and performances I have ever seen (Atalanta, home and away, Southampton away, Arsenal home etc etc etc), and here we are with a manager who knew he had the job from January, had the players to work with all summer, had £80m of talent brought in, and he is reverting to his MO : start well, fade fast.

And what is annoying is some blues are taking umbrage with the fact fans aren’t happy with this.

Yes but it's much easier to have a 'transitional season' when you've got two world class strikers. That isn't something that can be ignored, mate.

I'm not happy either, but how'd d'you know that's his 'MO'. He's shown that at one other club. One. And that was under circumstances that we ourselves directly impacted... So let's just see what happens.
 

Yes but it's much easier to have a 'transitional season' when you've got two world class strikers. That isn't something that can be ignored, mate.

I'm not happy either, but how'd d'you know that's his 'MO'. He's shown that at one other club. One. And that was under circumstances that we ourselves directly impacted... So let's just see what happens.

The same thing happened at Hull, I’ll find the stat for you.

As for having his head turned, if that is a defence for him, that doesn’t speak too highly. So he downed tools? It’s a load of bull that, but if it’s true, it’s worse than I thought.
 
Yes but it's much easier to have a 'transitional season' when you've got two world class strikers. That isn't something that can be ignored, mate.

I'm not happy either, but how'd d'you know that's his 'MO'. He's shown that at one other club. One. And that was under circumstances that we ourselves directly impacted... So let's just see what happens.

Here it is: from Paul Joyce today


Hull claimed 17 points from their first 11 matches under Silva as he sought to implement his ideas, raising hopes of avoiding relegation. But instead of momentum being maintained, they collected four points from the remaining seven games and slipped through the trapdoor. He headed for the exit with them.

At Watford, it was 21 points from 13 games and then five from the next 11, something his employers back then blamed on Everton’s unwanted advances. Now, at Goodison Park, Silva has taken 18 points from his first 11 matches as manager and nine from the next ten.

It is a pattern which promotes the notion that Silva’s methods and preferred style of play are quite quickly worked out by opponents.
 
Spent more money than Brighton, Bournemouth, wolves and Watford and we linger with them mid table. Call me mad but not a chance of finishing top 6-7 with this squad and current set up, do we accept 8-10th finish and try and finally get that monkey off our back and go for the fa cup? Favourable draw this weekend, few games away from Wembley.
 

Look at the kip of that league table. Wolves, Watford and West Ham above us, same points as Bournemouth and one point above the powerhouse that is Brighton.
We are in the same place we’ve occupied for the majority of the last 3 decades , mid table and all the clubs around are spending in pursuit of that top of the table dream and currently failing like us.
I understand the frustration , but let’s not pretend we are a top side suddenly fallen on hard times, we’ve been on hard times for a generation now.
I don’t know if Silva is the man to restore our fortunes, but I’d rather afford him the time to engineer a way out of this slump than press the reset button and go back to the beginning with new back room staff, new player requirements and another bedding in period.
 
That we are way off the top 4. Have been bar 1 season in the last 10 and not surprised by that.
The league consists of 6 teams who can make top 4 and then the rest . We are one of the rest. Have been for a while
One of the rest
That we are way off the top 4. Have been bar 1 season in the last 10 and not surprised by that.
The league consists of 6 teams who can make top 4 and then the rest . We are one of the rest. Have been for a while

A realistic point mate but the clubs spent decent amount of money hasn’t it? In 3 seasons with 3 different managers an don’t look any better off. That’s just my opinion.
 
One of the rest


A realistic point mate but the clubs spent decent amount of money hasn’t it? In 3 seasons with 3 different managers an don’t look any better off. That’s just my opinion.
And changin the manager again probably won't work either.
I think we need to accept that we are now a mid table side.
We might not like it. But results tell a tale
 
And changin the manager again probably won't work either.
I think we need to accept that we are now a mid table side.
We might not like it. But results tell a tale

It’s hard isn’t it mate, I wasn’t happy with the silva appointment. I would have took Pellegrini or Mancini, both have won trophies in the last 5 years and have that know how of taking sides far in cup competitions and I think the name of either in terms of respect in the market would go in our favour. Time will tell, Bournemouth is a tough game.
 
Here it is: from Paul Joyce today


Hull claimed 17 points from their first 11 matches under Silva as he sought to implement his ideas, raising hopes of avoiding relegation. But instead of momentum being maintained, they collected four points from the remaining seven games and slipped through the trapdoor. He headed for the exit with them.

At Watford, it was 21 points from 13 games and then five from the next 11, something his employers back then blamed on Everton’s unwanted advances. Now, at Goodison Park, Silva has taken 18 points from his first 11 matches as manager and nine from the next ten.

It is a pattern which promotes the notion that Silva’s methods and preferred style of play are quite quickly worked out by opponents.
Cool. Why didn't we see it at all the other clubs he was at?

Look, he's not doing anything tricky or revolutionary. There's nothing to FIND OUT. He's using the same tactics he has for year and years. There are youtube videos on it, it's not a mystery - well, at least not to some posters.

But it's HILARIOUS to expect Silva to have done much more with Hull. If he got 21 points from 18 games out of a side that had 3 TOTAL WINS in the games prior to his arrival, I'd say that's pretty good. Beating Arsenal, Liverpool, Man U, I'd say that's pretty good. That's why it's hilarious to suggest Silva can't beat a top 6 side. Hull would've also LOVED to keep him, but they signed him to a 6 month contract.

I think it's fair to critique the drop in form at Watford, but again, it's WATFORD.
 

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